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    Are all dogs afraid of fireworks/thunderstorms or just domesticated dogs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Kingstone
    Are all dogs afraid of fireworks/thunderstorms or just domesticated dogs?
    My dog Izzball doesn't care too much, maybe except for the sudden quick bang of an M80, that might get an angry "the fuck was that?" bark out of her.

    Her true nemeses are an unbalanced load in the washer and the mailman.

    Her predecessor Benson was generally unbothered by fireworks, but hated thunderstorms with a passion. And the vacuum cleaner.

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    My dog is not afraid of them - she is angry at them. When there is a thunder she wants to go outside and then starts angrily barking while looking upwards. She wants to tell the thunder to shut up so she can sleep.

    But I know that many domesticated dogs are afraid of these things - so your question is an interesting one.

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    Long weekend in Canada - fireworks last night. I heard upset dogs from a direction where no one lives and wondered if the coyotes were angry/afraid. Definite barking though, not hooting and partying like they normally do. Perhaps the wind was playing tricks with the direction of the sound.

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    I knew one that got so freaked about the unbalanced washer that he refused to go in the basement ever again. In fact, even if the machine was not unbalanced he'd get all squeaky and worried. "There's a monster in the basement!!" They'd put him in the backyard on laundry day.

    He was a big lethargic guy who wasn't bothered by much else... except fireworks.

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    this is sore subject as a few yrs ago one of my best friends dog got wigged out by 4th of July fireworks, ran away from home and got run over by a car a few blocks away. she was still alive when he got the phone call from his neighbor but he had to have her put down as her back was broken. sad.....

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    My furry friend is terrified of fireworks, so I'm already making a plan for New Year's Eve to ensure he feels safe and protected. To add to the challenge, he's also dealing with an awful allergy, which piles up on top of his anxiety. I'm currently looking to buy apoquel online canada and hoping that it will work to provide him with some relief. Managing a pet's fear of fireworks, especially combined with health issues like allergies, can be a delicate balance.
    Last edited by benhatchins; 12-25-2023 at 05:12 PM.

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    I'm not a dog, but fireworks scare me. Hate them. Always have. Generally, though, I live a dog's life.

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    Either way it is said that you shouldn't try to console them because they would interpret that as a confirmation of whatever their exact emotion is.

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    My Newfie ignores them, my Uber Dachshund (half chocolate lab, he looks like a dachshund on steroids) gets antsy but stops if you ignore him running around, as RJVB noted. Other dogs we had in the past completely lost it though, but also freaked out when someone burned something in the oven and the fire alarms went off. Neither of my current 2 are bothered by that.

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    Ours doesn't care. The only thing is that it doesn't like is to be in the rain. Won't go outside voluntarily.

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    No, certainly not. Depends largly on the bread of dog and the individual dog. Labrador retrievers or retrievers in general can be trained as a gamedog and being (very) close to fire guns/fireworks. I have had a labrador once that was highly trained as a gamedog and was very comfortable in sitting out on a open square next to fireworks less than 10m from here. She was very releaxed with that. Just sat there on her butt, without a leash. No stress whatsoever. I now have a Jack Russel and she does not like the fireworks at all. We have to give her some some "homeopathie" kind of dope to calm down her stress when the newyear time is near. She is already afraid of heavy rain. When thunder occurs, she wants/needs to sit down next to the big man (me, being her top dog) on her special "bad weather rug" less than 1 meter from me away in order to keep her as much stress reduced as possible.

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    So it depends
    Last edited by Peter C; 12-22-2023 at 07:46 PM.

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    Coyotes howling in the field. Deer season soon. I shine a flashlight into the field out of curiosity and they dummy up immediately and stay quiet as if they were embarrassed upon discovery. I feel a bit bad. I have no livestock or small animals so I have no need to chase them off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJVB
    Either way it is said that you shouldn't try to console them because they would interpret that as a confirmation of whatever their exact emotion is.
    THIS!
    When dad got our first dog, a German shepherd, we took him to a trainer for about a year, 3 times a week. One of the things the trainer had said was exactly this - when you see something that scares the dog never pet it or console it and instead let it be and let it get used to it or ignore the 'tantrums' it may throw. Another option she mentioned was to distract its attention from the cause of distress, but again, don't baby the dog.
    Last edited by jazzloverfat; 09-27-2024 at 02:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Kingstone
    Coyotes howling in the field.... I have no livestock or small animals so I have no need to chase them off.
    I am not familiar with coyotes and don't know how "wild" the place where you live is, but I see what's happening with the reintroduction of the wolf in western Europe because of its strictly protected status. In short, top predators (AFAIK correct for the wolf here) and populated areas don't or shouldn't mix. There have been several incidents this year in the Netherlands involving a small pack in a park area, two of them involving kids getting bitten and thrown over, one a dog (on a leash) being killed. Officials are not even allowed to maintain a fear-based level of respect towards human, the animals seem to get increasingly smarter at defeating supposedly wolf-safe barriers around livestock pens, and if you happen to road-kill one accidentally you best hope you didn't leave any trace or else you'll have earned a police investigation to be really certain there really wasn't any intent.

    Quote Originally Posted by jazzloverfat
    instead let it be and let it get used to it or ignore the 'tantrums' it may throw.
    Remember any advice how to break fear for thunderstorms?

    With our dog it was abnormally difficult to get her to get on structures or through tubes etc. at puppy school. Fortunately she no longer has any trouble at that (but she'll still bark at unexpected appearances of people with differently-coloured skin or even known people with a silly hat ). I remember a beach walk where we happened upon a yellow buoy that has washed ashore. She got a fit, until we literally dragged her towards it and put her nose right up to it so she could smell it was just an inert object.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJVB
    I am not familiar with coyotes and don't know how "wild" the place where you live is, but I see what's happening with the reintroduction of the wolf in western Europe because of its strictly protected status. In short, top predators (AFAIK correct for the wolf here) and populated areas don't or shouldn't mix. There have been several incidents this year in the Netherlands involving a small pack in a park area, two of them involving kids getting bitten and thrown over, one a dog (on a leash) being killed. Officials are not even allowed to maintain a fear-based level of respect towards human, the animals seem to get increasingly smarter at defeating supposedly wolf-safe barriers around livestock pens, and if you happen to road-kill one accidentally you best hope you didn't leave any trace or else you'll have earned a police investigation to be really certain there really wasn't any intent.

    .............
    Rural, mixed wood forest. Deer, occasional Black Bear and Moose. Coyotes are here every year despite the hunters best efforts. I heard of them trying to take down larger cattle north of town but the farmer shot the predator and saved the livestock. Jazz guitarists have been hunted to near extinction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Kingstone
    Coyotes are here every year despite the hunters best efforts. I heard of them trying to take down larger cattle north of town but the farmer shot the predator and saved the livestock.
    Sounds like a reasonable balance then.
    (They're solitary hunters, no?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJVB
    Sounds like a reasonable balance then.
    (They're solitary hunters, no?)
    They are in packs I think.

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    I am sure some here consider me rude but I found really rude what happened to me yesterday.

    Early morning, I am having my cup of espresso and my spelt croissant sitting at a table in front of the little cafe around the corner, when this woman (I refuse to call her a lady) comes and tries to let her dog defecate on the pavement right in front of me. I tell her I am having my breakfast and ask her if it is really necessary and if she could not go somewhere else and she says the dog was in a hurry but it looked like the dog in reality rather had a constipation problem. Later I carry my empty cup back in and tell the story to the woman in the bakery. She could not believe it.


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    Trixie was never afraid of the fireworks and now at 14 she is deaf. She is getting up there in age and still manages ok by son's dog and really, I am not so much a dog lover. I don't hate them but don't like cleaning up after them.

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    We have retired racing greyhounds. So they started life not domesticated (raised on a dog farm), then went to semi-domesticated (lived in a kennel at the race track), to domesticated (in a home with comfy beds and couches).

    Of our 4, only 1 has the fear of loud noises... fireworks, guns... but thunderstorms are the worst. Interestingly, it's also the dog who came from Ireland... where thunderstorms don't really happen believe it or not. I don't know if that's the reason or if it's just happenstance that THAT ONE out of our 4 has really problem with it. It's a terrible thing not watch; he has a full-on panic attack, like it's PTSD or something... panting profusely, shaking non-stop. We actually drug him when we know we have many hours of thunderstorms coming

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bop Head
    this woman comes and tries to let her dog defecate on the pavement right in front of me.
    Don't tell me Germany doesn't have laws and regulations against at least not scooping up the poop afterwards?

    Quote Originally Posted by ruger9
    where thunderstorms don't really happen believe it or not.
    It's said that the 1st 3-4 months are crucial: exposure to as many stimuli as possible is required to get a well-balanced dog (or cat, for that matter). Our dog was born on an actual farm and stayed with her mom for about 1 month longer than usual (she needed the rabies vaccination for exportation to France), and still she has fear issues. Except towards bovines - her home farm main business was hosting veal of a certain age range. She now goes teasing cattle in a nearby field if we let her, which I'd rather she didn't...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJVB
    Don't tell me Germany doesn't have laws and regulations against at least not scooping up the poop afterwards?



    It's said that the 1st 3-4 months are crucial: exposure to as many stimuli as possible is required to get a well-balanced dog (or cat, for that matter). Our dog was born on an actual farm and stayed with her mom for about 1 month longer than usual (she needed the rabies vaccination for exportation to France), and still she has fear issues. Except towards bovines - her home farm main business was hosting veal of a certain age range. She now goes teasing cattle in a nearby field if we let her, which I'd rather she didn't...
    Or course the woman carried like (almost) every dog owner those little plastic bags with her that you use like a glove to pick up the feces. But nevertheless I do not want to have a shi.... defecating dog in front of me when having breakfast. Would you like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bop Head
    Or course the woman carried like (almost) every dog owner those little plastic bags with her that you use like a glove to pick up the feces. But nevertheless I do not want to have a shi.... defecating dog in front of me when having breakfast. Would you like that?
    While it's not an ideal situation, I have much bigger fish to fry in life than worrying/complaining about a dog pooping in front of me. First-world problems...