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    I didn't want to bump another old topic so ...
    I saw many of you use Yamaha THR here, and I also saw some of you here use " Fender in a box pedals " ...
    So just short question:
    What are your thoughts about Joyo AS (Tweed in a box pedal) , into a Yamaha THR on clean?
    The thing is; I have THR 5 which only has tone control and not 3-EQ , so I thought it would be cool if I would buy Joyo AS and use it as a some sort of 3-band-EQ pedal + preamp pedal combination.
    And it's literally 45$ pedal, price of 2 coffee's in my country.
    So what are your thoughts on this idea? Could it work in terms of making my base sound " more flexible " ? Cause I'm not sure if I'm happy with my base sound at the moment ... I would like to keep it tiny bit more flexible again.
    Thanks for your thoughts.

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    I don't have a Yamaha amp, but I do have a Joyo American Sound. Many people seem to like it for fattening the tone. I don't use mine often, because I've come to prefer just going straight into the amp. That's a personal preference, though. The Joyo is a cheap and effective way to change the tone if that's wanted. I tend to set mine, if I do use it, at about 1 to 2 o'clock for the voice knob, the gain at 9 to 10 o'clock, and the volume as needed, with the tone controls near 12. That doesn't alter the tone a lot, but I don't like a lot of alteration. YMMV on that. At the price, I think it's worth taking a flyer on it. It's a versatile pedal that can do a lot if a lot is needed, or not much if just a small tweak is wanted.

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    Don't have a Yamaha THR and not sure how much can be done with it. But I do use the Joyo American on a daily basis and it's been a great pedal. I believe it's marketed as a 57 DeLuxe preamp sound. Not sure what my ears say on that, but you can cover a pretty broad array of tones and it sounds good. One thing you don't see mentioned much is that the EQ controls (bass, mid, treble) along with the presence setting work quite well. Also, being an analog device, it doesn't draw much power.

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    Thanks both of you for info. Just one more small question; noise levels on lower gain are at acceptable level, I assume ? I kinda need as less noise as possible in terms of pedal.

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    Hi, I have the same practice amp, and for my clean jazz tone I use the crunch channel and set the gain just on the verge of breaking up.

    I am happy with that sound. The clean channel on those little speakers is just too puny. Depending on the guitar, I will have the amp's tone knob completely down or just a bit on.

    Also the smallest amount of hall reverb possible, or none at all if your room is lively.

    Maybe give that a try and see if it sounds good to you.

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    For sure I will keep the amp, I like it for recording purposes, and I also think I will buy that pedal , I can risk 40 $.

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    Mine is not a noisy pedal at all. Like any other pedal, it can get noisier as the gain is cranked. If the volume and the gain are set at high levels, there will be some hissing, that's inevitable, but at the levels I use at home, I don't think it's any noisier than the amp alone. It can develop a buzz with some power supplies, but that's caused by the power supply, which will buzz through any pedal. 60-cycle hum is recognizable. The pedal is quiet on battery, and that's how I usually power it. I tend to use rechargeable 9V lithium batteries in an external enclosure, because that's easier than installing the battery inside. It's certainly not necessary, though, it's just that I have several enclosures bought for cheap and modified for center negative use already on hand. I can use one to power my SBUS in a pinch. Power is always something that needs thought when using pedals. The center negative/ring positive configuration was never a great idea, but it's what we have to live with.

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    You can get good results with that pedal depending upon how you dial it. I set mine like this:

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    i own some nice amps, but I find myself using the joyo + tech 21 power engine for practice and playing out. I use my nice stuff for recording. I’m considering just permanently mounting the joyo and an ehx reverb inside the tech21 with some dedicated power and a guitar cable input.

    Noise levels at lower gain are acceptable, higher gain is unacceptable.

    You will quite likely appreciate the “voice” knob for flexibility.

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    I’ve heard nothing but good things about the Joyo pedal. The price is right!

    I got a TCE Tube Pilot recently for a bit more overdrive when running through a SS (acoustic) amp. It has an actual tube in the box (12AX7). I like it. It’s more than the Joyo but not too expensive. And only 2 knobs.

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    When I used to have a Yamaha THR practice amp, I prefered the bass guitar setting for jazz. That setting had a fat, clean tone but still somewhat tubey.
    I have Joyo American as well as Tech 21 blonde. I like to use these pedals with non-modeling SS amps like ZT or polytone to round out the SS tones a bit and to get a more laid back feel. They also work well as "colored" EQ pedals. But I think they would be redundant with a modeling amp like Yamaha.
    Last edited by Tal_175; 03-01-2025 at 02:40 PM.

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    I used mine with a Marshall AS50D acoustic amp and it sounded fine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarTissue
    Thanks both of you for info. Just one more small question; noise levels on lower gain are at acceptable level, I assume ? I kinda need as less noise as possible in terms of pedal.
    I have two of them (one for regular pedalboard, one for lightweight battery powered board) and both have been basically silent in my application. The one on the main board is pretty old now as well and hasn't shown any durability issues.

    I use mine as a totally clean preamp in front of a cabinet modeler into an FRFR. It sounds pretty good to warm up a dry acoustic guitar signal as well.

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    I've got one, and while I love what it does to my tone, it picks up so many radio signals that it's completely unusable.

    I've tried it with a couple of different power supplies and under battery power without any improvement. It's probably the strongest radio receiver I own right now, as long as you don't mind listening to just one frequency.

    That said, it's incredibly low-cost and sounds great. If it worked for me (as it obviously does for others) I would recommend it in a heartbeat.

    I've also got a THR10c, which I can endorse wholeheartedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otterfan
    I've got one, and while I love what it does to my tone, it picks up so many radio signals that it's completely unusable.

    I've tried it with a couple of different power supplies and under battery power without any improvement. It's probably the strongest radio receiver I own right now, as long as you don't mind listening to just one frequency.

    That said, it's incredibly low-cost and sounds great. If it worked for me (as it obviously does for others) I would recommend it in a heartbeat.

    I've also got a THR10c, which I can endorse wholeheartedly.
    I used to have a solid state acoustic amp like that! Picked up NPR like the radio tower was only 100 feet away. Which is true—it is literally 100 feet away.