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    I notice this a lot watching youtube vids of pros.

    I clip my strings short close to peg, its just neater, but im beginning to think that there must be a reason why pros coil the leftover strings instead of clipping them.

    Anyone got an opinion?

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    I don't know what possible practical reason there could be. I notice it a lot too, but it drives me up the wall to see it.
    Unless there's something I'm missing, it just looks like an ungainly mess with limitless potential to scratch up the headstock and get hooked on things.

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    I always assumed it was in case you had to restring the same string. I have tried to do this with a cut string and it's not easy.....either that or just pure laziness.....so I guess it comes down to cheapness and/or laziness

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    or not having a clipper with you when you restrung it last.

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    On an acoustic, the coils could be a source of buzzing, one good reason to clip.
    Brad

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    I saw a Beatles documentary last week and noted their shaggy, unkempt head stocks.

    I can't go for that, no can do...

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    When I change strings, I usually leave the string ends on, coiled up, for a day, just in case something happens. After that I clip them. I think there's no reason to leave them on, maybe just lazy (or busy) players?

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    I've had more than one rock player tell me they leave the strings long so that the extra string that's coiled up will vibrate along with the string on the neck and reinforce the sound for extra volume!!

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    Perhaps it goes back to when they were broke and didn't carry spares. See-if you have the full length of string, and it snaps at the bridge-you can always tie a knot in that end and carry on. the tension pulls out the bend in the string that was around the tuning head.If you've snipped-you haven't enough string left to do that. Yep-been that soldier.

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    Probably for the very same reason some old ladies leave the price tags hanging on their hats. (Am I being ageist?)

    The reasoning goes: Why clip and throw away something that you paid for?

    I use only the middle portion of the strings, clipping off both ends under the misguided notion that the middle is the "good" part. Edit: Realized that I was referring to my nylon strings here
    Last edited by Jabberwocky; 02-22-2012 at 11:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billkath
    Perhaps it goes back to when they were broke and didn't carry spares. See-if you have the full length of string, and it snaps at the bridge-you can always tie a knot in that end and carry on.
    I used to do it and this is the only reason I can think of.

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    It keeps the excess string length neat and tidy (no flailing string end to poke one's eye out...). Everyone should coil the excess, shouldn't they..? Why would one not want to..? Very aesthetic, too, seeing those nice regular round rings lying there, glistening between the pegs at the headstock. No-brainer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad3353
    It keeps the excess string length neat and tidy (no flailing string end to poke one's eye out...). Everyone should coil the excess, shouldn't they..? Why would one not want to..? Very aesthetic, too, seeing those nice regular round rings lying there, glistening between the pegs at the headstock. No-brainer...
    But wouldn't cutting of the excess be even neater?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raylinds
    But wouldn't cutting of the excess be even neater?
    Possibly, in the same way as shaving one's head is neater, but that's hippies for you... I don't mow the lawn, either.

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    retroman: just wondering how the ar371 is coming along? i am going to buy one or a peerless manhattan. i have heard so much good news about the eastman that i feel i should change my mind and get one of those.

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    [QUOTE=Doctor Jeff;205903]I saw a Beatles documentary last week and noted their shaggy, unkempt head stocks.

    I can't go for that, no can do...[/QUOTE

    this was one of the things Brian Epstein put a stop to when he came on as management. He felt it went against the clean look he wanted. They kept the strings coiled because they couldn't afford strings all the time. Once Epstein came on he put a stop to that had their hair cleaned up along with their wardrobes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richard vandyne
    retroman: just wondering how the ar371 is coming along? i am going to buy one or a peerless manhattan. i have heard so much good news about the eastman that i feel i should change my mind and get one of those.
    Hey there Richard,
    Well I'm still liking it more and more as I continue to break it in. I highly reccomend it, but I hate to discourage you from the Peerless. I always hear good things about them, but have never tried one for comparison.

    I've been recording some samples of the 371, and will try to get them uploaded this weekend.

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    thanks for the reply.just wanted to confirm that you still liked it.i pretty well made up my mind on the eastman. i can,t justify the price of twice as much. i originally wanted a gibson 175 style and decided against the epi. now with eastman thats another story. i will be ordering it in april so will let you know about it thanks again

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    No prob. Let me know when you get it, and what you think.

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    Coiled string ends make great antennae for picking up alien transmissions. Six strings cover most alien frequency ranges, but twelve capture the entire spectrum. Add foil helmet and you're a super receiver.

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    More than once I insisted that a student crop the strings at the headstock before I would seat them for a lesson. Back in the '70s it seemed to be IN to have looses ends poking out all over the place. I figured that with students sitting to my right it was only a matter of time before I caught one of those in the eyeball so I had a rule about that and I held them to it.

    I lock the tail of my strings under the wrap and usually have about 1/2 turn on the capstan. The tail is cut as short as I can get it. I actually do something similar with my hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad3353
    Possibly, in the same way as shaving one's head is neater, but that's hippies for you... I don't mow the lawn, either.
    I wish I had enough hair left to be a hippie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retroman1969
    Hey there Richard,
    Well I'm still liking it more and more as I continue to break it in. I highly reccomend it, but I hate to discourage you from the Peerless. I always hear good things about them, but have never tried one for comparison.

    I've been recording some samples of the 371, and will try to get them uploaded this weekend.
    I would love to hear the samples as well....I was advised by the (recently discovered) local Eastman dealer that there is a huge demand for them and I am looking at 8 weeks of waiting if I order one...would want to be sure I like the tone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retroman1969
    Hey there Richard,
    Well I'm still liking it more and more as I continue to break it in. I highly reccomend it, but I hate to discourage you from the Peerless. I always hear good things about them, but have never tried one for comparison.

    I've been recording some samples of the 371, and will try to get them uploaded this weekend.
    YES would love to hear them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by korey-craft
    or not having a clipper with you when you restrung it last.
    simple and to the point

    to answer the question- i think if you change strings frequently, its a practical short cut-they will be there a week if you play hard or have sweaty, yourthful hands-
    id kill strings in about two hours when i was 17,
    changed strings sometimes more than once a week
    -used to curl the ends myself -it wasnt weird or unusual at all

    i do not carry cutters in a guitar case-
    but i have a spare set of strings

    if you have to change stings, its simply-
    you string, and then
    curl the strings using the edge of a key, or something metal with an edge-keeps them out of the way-
    or wrap them

    i think this might be something that was far more common in the late 60's, as i recall seeing this done a lot, especially by folk and folk rock accoustic players-

    and back then-there were no convenient , guitar specific pocket/case sized cutters-you used the old craftsman -and you ran a risk of damage should they come out of the case compartment and float around in the case

    at one time it didnt bother me-

    now-like my hair -things are a bit more orderly, and i dont seem to kill strings as quickly
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