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I may be wrong, but this one looks odd to me... it's the 's' that makes me think.
Apart from this specific case, anybody who can share experience on fake Gibsons? It seems the counterfeits have become more sophisticated, certainly more than the old 3-screw truss rod cover example would imply. Does one need to be sceptical with archtops as well, or is this mainly a Les Paul issue?
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05-10-2014 04:39 AM
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Does it have a serial number on the back?
I had a fake Chibson through my hands a while back, it was sold to the owner as a fake so no one was duped.
Here's a few pix..
The serial number here says production #259 made 19th July, 2005.
Great, but the number has been stamped through the lacquer and not under the lacquer! The other factor is that this is a custom LP and it's blue!
The bell cover was super glued down so as to hide the truss rod nut, which was an allen nut and not the usual acorn one.
Hmmm, not right.
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yeah, the i looks odd here...
here's the ser Nr of the one in question...
its not as telling...
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S doesn't look right to me but I am no expert. I would hold off until you can get it confirmed.
I cant make out the serial but you can , iirc, call Gibson and confirm the number is valid and matches the model.
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It's a fake. The logo is all wrong!!....
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I tend to agree... this guitar is offered on Gumtree in the UK... beware.
Originally Posted by larry graves
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I'd read that Gibsun, even Gibsum.
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The logo is totally wrong. Not even close. The silk screened "Les Paul model" looks pretty good.
It's mainly a problem with Les Pauls. Arch top forgeries are VERY rare. It's far easier, as well as more practicle from a costing aspect to forge a plank than it is to forge a crafted instrument. However, I have a friend who made a Gibson L5CN copy for his son. It's so spot on accurate that even Gibson wouldn't know they didn't make it . . . with one exception. That exception was put into the guitar specifically so that it could never be sold as a genuine Gibson L5CN.
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here is a fake L5... rather scary...
http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=261505232997
Somehow looks as if she has only 16', but could be the pic... also tailpiece and other details... but upgraded a little, the knock off might be difficult to spot, at least online...Last edited by Phil in London; 06-14-2014 at 07:19 AM.
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I saw that same guitar on a youtube video about fake L5's. Originally Posted by Phil in London
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What about this one? Seems exactly the same with the 'S' and all. Cant see this being a fake although the headstock face has been tampered with, or had th leaguer removed/damaged.
Something about it doesn't seem right.
Gibson ES175T Thinline 1977 USA All Original | eBay
Last edited by GoergeBenson; 06-14-2014 at 08:36 AM.
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I found this on the web... interesting variant, no i-dot and strange s...
Last edited by Phil in London; 06-14-2014 at 10:08 AM.
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but still, the OP logo looks wrong... too thin, unbalanced...
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I think this one is less 'spider-web type' than the OP... somehow odd, but difficult to see that this guitar is a fake... maybe a headstock repair, as you indicate... Originally Posted by GoergeBenson
What about this one? Seems exactly the same with the 'S' and all. Cant see this being a fake although the headstock face has been tampered with, or had th leaguer removed/damaged.
Something about it doesn't seem right.
Gibson ES175T Thinline 1977 USA All Original | eBay
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Yo yoma, enclosed "o"! The touchstone of all genuine Gibsons....or mebbe not. Originally Posted by GoergeBenson
What about this one? Seems exactly the same with the 'S' and all. Cant see this being a fake although the headstock face has been tampered with, or had th leaguer removed/damaged.
Something about it doesn't seem right.
Gibson ES175T Thinline 1977 USA All Original | eBay
The f-holes don't look right. Pinned bridge, definitely wrong in my book on any gibson chibson fibson. The Holly inlay looks too low. The "Made in USA" stamp; isn't it usually stamped right below the serial number during that era?
PS All's right with the world; Carmen McRae sings Book of Ballads.Last edited by Jabberwocky; 06-14-2014 at 11:12 AM.
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Yo muma wishes she was a 'thin line'
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Yo momma so fat, people walk out when she walks in 'cos the show's over, the fat lady is gonna sing.
Yo Yo Ma.
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Fake ES175 guitars exist.
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Yo yoma jokes aside, the serial number is stamped rather high up the back of the headstock. Is it a 1981 vintage? The logo does not look suspect to me as the 1981 logo has the enclosed "o" and slanted "s". A 1981 serial number would usually be stamped such that the beginning and end of it are partly obscured by the tuning machines.
It is hard to tell without seeing the rest of it. The entire logo looks a little skinny but that may be distortion due to the handheld camera shot.
Edit: OK, looks to be a Les Paul Standard but which LP Standard comes with gold hardware?Last edited by Jabberwocky; 06-14-2014 at 02:05 PM.
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Its a 77
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Sorry, I was referring to the OP's gumtree uk find. Looks like a Lester to me. Originally Posted by GoergeBenson
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Saw a fake Gibson LP custom for sale in a pawn shop, it is advertised as a fake but they still want £599/$1020/€750 for it. Funnily enough it hasn't moved in the last month.
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How about ALL the fake Fenders out there?
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