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I don't know how new this one is but I've been wanting an ES-125, but don't really want a vintage guitar... this one looks good.
Gibson 1959 ES-225 Electric Guitar (with Case) at zZounds
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10-25-2014 01:03 PM
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A friend got an older one off eBay and brought it over. The P90s sound pretty good. The trapeze has been replaced with a '70s style 335 trapeze and a tunamatic. He and I are 335 players, and the feel of the 225 is very different.
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i always thought those looked pretty cool, but i hate how the just put dots on everything, period correctness aside. but if i'm not mistaken, tailpiece aside, that's essentially an epiphone sorrento, which is, in effect, a single cut casino, to name two more recent, cheaper options. they won't have the '59 trimmings, thought, if that's a thing for you.
i do believe heritage can also be coerced to make one of these for you as well, (probably) for less, if you don't mind them. i forget the model number off the top of my head, though.
and if you are just hemorrhaging cash, collings makes a similar shape, which i've long admired.
still, that 225 is pretty handsome. at $3300 and 5 1/2 pounds, i'd give it a serious think.
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a new '59 ES 225 for the price of a true old one ? (or nearly .....)
Sure it looks fine
I wonder how it sounds ....
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My buddy's 225 has aftermarket P90s (don't know the brand) and they will overdrive my amp.
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These were great guitars and it was obvious that Gibson would get to them eventually.
The originals had nice big necks, and when they replaced them with the stripped-down ES-125 thinline cutaway models, they went to skinny little necks and a different neck set. Because of the way the neck is set, the ES-225 is closer to a thinline ES-175 in feel than anything else, IMO.
The reissue is in the same mode as the recent reissues of the '59 ES-175 and late '50 ES-330.
I haven't played one yet but I'll bet it's just as good as the other two reissues, and they are really, really good.
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Thanks for the link. I had no idea Gibson had planned this RI.
I was looking for one of these for a while.
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Originally Posted by 339 in june
....Probably bad to the bone!
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Is this Christine in the picture (behind Mr Thorogood) ? Originally Posted by Woody Sound
....Probably bad to the bone!
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Nice parking :-)) Originally Posted by 339 in june
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$3300 for that cheap laminate box?!!
They really don't have embarrassing silences and muffled sniggering, when prices are set in the boardroom, do they!
Thats nearly $500 a letter, the other $300 is what it cost to make.
G-I-B-S-O-N-$
Last edited by Archie; 10-27-2014 at 05:27 PM.
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There's a reason NOBODY puts that tailpiece on a guitar anymore.
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No big deal. Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
Slap a standard bridge base, toon-o-matickle bridge and a B-6 on that baby, and rock around the clock!
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Please note that Mr Thorogood's guitar doesn't have such a tailpiece. Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
I agree there should be a reason for that
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Maybe this :
GIBSON ES 125 TC DEL 1966 - #3803736 | su Mercatino Musicale in Chitarre elettriche Hollow / Semi
can be a good alternative ?
For less ££,$$,€€ or CHF
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Mr. Thorogood's guitar is not an ES-225, but an ES-125TCD - it never had such a tailpiece! But the ES-125 tailpiece and bridge would certainly work on an ES-225. Originally Posted by 339 in june
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I want one, like Mr Ribot's Originally Posted by Hammertone
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There's also a reason that Les Paul designed and used that tailpiece. With a set of medium gauge flatwounds on the guitar the Les Paul tailpiece works just great. The temptation to slap a trapeze and tune-o-matic on everything is a concession to skinny strings, which will not intonate properly without such a setup. The big boy strings will do just fine. A guitar like that should be strung with 12-50.
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Same applies for Jazzmasters.. put a set of 12s on them and you wont need no stinking mastery bridge. Originally Posted by Greentone
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I have a (1 pup) 1957 and my personnal experience is that this is a great guitar -- sounds really good and plays really well, and no issues with the hardware or single pup location. I believe that they are one of Gibson's best kept secrets.
I haven't seen one of the RI, but if they are comparable to the vintage ones, they are good. I haven't followed these in years so I don't know how much they go for now, but I would think that you could get an original one in excellent condition for less that the asking price for the RI.
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P.S. +1 what Greentone and SamBooka said about 0.012 flats.
Also keep in mind that the bridge tailpiece unit got a bad rap because Gibson screwed up when they first came on the early Les Paul (they made the strings go around under the bridge instead of over it, resulting in many geometry problems). By the time they fixed it to be used as intended (and with the neck angle set accordingly), the bridge tailpiece,worked fine, at least with larger string (never tried smaller than 0.012), on the ES-225 and also on the ES-295.
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Has anyone tried one of these yet?
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I have a 1956 ES-225T and I really like it. I have not had any problem with the tail piece as long as I have had 12 ga. strings on it. The bridge did move around a bit if I got heavy handed with 11's on it. I think the Les Paul tail piece gives the guitar a unique feel and sound. I have not seen a re-issue in the stores but I am sure you could pick up an original for under 2000.00 if one were patient. I bought my ES-225 several years ago for $1500.00 and it is in very nice condition and plays great. Every time I have thought about selling it I pull it out and play it and change my mind.
Thanks John
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I don't have any first hand experience with that particular Gibson, but I have always been a fan of its looks (as well as the Byrdland) because I love the Florentine cutaway. I would have to think especially hard about dropping $3K on any Gibson these days. Almost every Gibson I see at Guitar Center has a terrible finish. Maybe it's just the Guitar Center stock in my neighborhood - all the other Gibson dealers in the area have lost their deals with Gibson. Don't get me wrong, I think Gibson guitars have great electronics and pickups (the SG and Les Paul I owned were stellar), but in general, they're not what they used to be -IMHO.
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GNAPPI- I looked at the link you supplied, Gibson 1959 ES-225 Electric Guitar (with Case) at zZounds and it proves my point in my previous post. If you hover the mouse over the image of the guitar, look at the F-hole. This is incredibly sloppy workmanship for a guitar costing $3299.00. The inside of the f-hole clearly has "fuzz" on the inside edge, that Gibson should have sanded. I bet on close inspection, with the instrument in had, the f-hole itself might even be jagged. It looks like someone at the Nashville factory took it off the CNC router and assembled it without even a pass with a sander. That's what I meant by stating Gibson isn't what it used to be. That kind of slop is ridiculous on a $3300. instrument. From a practical standpoint this might not bother some, but when a Chinese made instrument can be had for under $500, with the same quality, I think Gibson needs to get real on their prices or get real with their quality.
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