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This one escaped me. I thought Sco's guitar was part of the Artist family of guitars (or at least started out that way)? I just saw this new guitar (with the pricing to go with it).
Anybody know about it? I also see that they're using pretty much the same headstock as Sco's guitar (which I thought was singularly unique in the Ibanez family tree).
Any Jazzers have a track record with this one? Abercrombie maybe? Just wondering.
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Ibanez AR2619 Antique Violin | Sweetwater.comLast edited by West LA Jazz; 09-07-2015 at 03:38 AM.
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09-07-2015 03:35 AM
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There were both solidbody and semiacustic Ibanez Artists. Metheny appears to have played a solidbody Artist at some point (maybe before adopting the Roland guitar synth):
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A friend of mine has one I played it, very nice guitar easy to play with a nice sound.
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Spot on with the J.Abercrombie connection.
(Do I get a prize for co-ordinating the song title with the calendar date?)
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I had one when they came out in the 1980's. It was very similar to a Les Paul with two cutaways, an ebony fb and coil taps. It was a fine guitar and I used it on lots of gigs. Beautifully made and sounded great. Another one that I wish I had kept.
Keith
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I remember getting one of the first Ibanez mail order catalogs back in the day, and this was the flagship model of their entire guitar line.
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I don't know what I'd do without this forum. Speaking of the Ibanez Artist. At least to my ears, Albercrombie shows that it's really capable of a beautiful jazz tone. Man!
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Killer guitars (like Yamaha SGs).
Last edited by Fidelcaster; 09-08-2015 at 04:20 PM.
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[QUOTE=Fidelcaster;565947]Killer guitars (like Yamaha SGs).
Sweet guitar and guitar player. It feels as good as my Eastman T185MX, I'm going to hunt one down. I love the sound even though the ones I've seen are all being played through different amps.
PS: I couldn't find a wiki page on Nicky Moroch.
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I visited his site but now it seems to be down. He appears to be a very busy session musician.
Originally Posted by West LA Jazz
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I found a video that says he's a very in demand NYC session guitarist. That explains why he can switch styles with ease. Originally Posted by Fidelcaster
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Excellent guitar, well built, and extremely comfortable to play.
I plan two upgrades if I can get my hands on original parts :
1) replace the (good) Gotoh tuners with the 1970s locking Velve Tune tuners
2) replace the (good) Super 80 re-issue pickups with original Super 70s (less top end and more middle)
PS Although Pat M played an Artist occasionally, he generally used one of the Musician models (MC300?) for the GR-300. the Musician models are also great, particularly the MC400 and 500 series on which the natural woodwork is a genuine work of art.
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Im not entirely sure where you are getting the Scofield link from. The guitar is basically a precursor to the much loved Ibanez AR, part of the 'Artist' series. The headstocks between this era in the 'Artist' range would have been the same.
They are fantastic guitars but the good news is, you don't have to spend $2500. You could buy an original (which are probable better although subjective) for about $1500 :-)
The model will be the AR-300 or AR-305, or you can get the original 2619 for less. Ibanes moved away from just using numbers to name a model, hence the change in model name to AR (although the guitars are slightly different). People seem to prefer the 80's 'AR' series over the 70's 2619's. The 2619's are brighter sounding and I dont think the pickups are as good. I think Crombie is playing a AR200?
Heres mine: Ibanez AR-305 Artist
Last edited by Archie; 09-09-2015 at 01:58 PM.
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The Ibanez Artist line in the late 70s and early 80s included solid bodies and Semi-Hollow bodies. During this time period, they all had the same headstock, affectionately referred to as the "castle" headstock because of the shape of the top. Initially, the guitar that Scofield is most associated with had a different model name, but eventually became the "AS-200." Also at some point, Ibanez began calling their semihollow and hollowbodies "Artstar" and, for a while, discontinued the equal double-cutaway solid body guitar altogether. They also changed the headstock design on the Artstars to a really small, narrow one for a few years, and then to a larger one like on the GB models - which is the current headstock on the AS200 and AF200.
When Sco worked with Ibanez to design the JSM100, he wanted them to go back to the original headstock, along with the original AS200 specs and other small changes. The JSM100 has the jack on the rim, different tuners, the old half bone/half brass nut, and no tri-switch for the neck pickup.
They had other similar guitars (the Ghostrider, for a few years, and a few lower-end models with the Artist name). They then came out with the AR2000 (around 2000) and ultimately brought back the classic Artist model with some Chinese made models.
The current AR2619 is part of their Prestige line, made in Japan (probably by Fujigen). Look closely - this is a different design from the Chinese Artists. It's also really well made.
Some of the appointments of the AS-200, AF200 and Artist solid bodies are common because of the trim level (gold hardware, ebony boards, the acrylic/abalone inlays, suregrip knobs, etc.).
That AR305 is absolutely stunning!!!
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Steve Miller used something similar. I think they actually came out with a Steve Miller model variation at some point.
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Originally Posted by Woody Sound
Steve Miller used something similar. I think they actually came out with a Steve Miller model variation at some point.
I believe his had build in effects, has about 8 knobs and several switches and wreaths a ton. Not like the one pictured.
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What's that price again ?
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Originally Posted by ArchtopHeaven
Im not entirely sure where you are getting the Scofield link from. The guitar is basically a precursor to the much loved Ibanez AR, part of the 'Artist' series. The headstocks between this era in the 'Artist' range would have been the same.
They are fantastic guitars but the good news is, you don't have to spend $2500. You could buy an original (which are probable better although subjective) for about $1500 :-)
The model will be the AR-300 or AR-305, or you can get the original 2619 for less. Ibanes moved away from just using numbers to name a model, hence the change in model name to AR (although the guitars are slightly different). People seem to prefer the 80's 'AR' series over the 70's 2619's. The 2619's are brighter sounding and I dont think the pickups are as good. I think Crombie is playing a AR200?
Heres mine: Ibanez AR-305 Artist
I am referring to the headstock. The word precurser is the key word here. I hadn't noticed this headstock (at least I didn't pay attention) until now. It seems they used this for Sco's guitar. I think this headstock is the nicest looking head of all of Ibanezes semi hollow body guitars.
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I have an AR2619-CS (cherry sunburst) arriving tomorrow, succumbed after playing my friends, it will be the first 24 3/4" scale solid body I have owned.
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I know the feeling. Very sweet! Congrats. Originally Posted by Para
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Hi! Originally Posted by Para
What do you think of the guitar after having it for four months?
Would you care to comment on the "Super 80" pickups? I wasn't able to find much info about them online.
Thanks!
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Hi Fidel
Sorry to have missed your post - my experience of the new Super 80s on the Artist 2619-CS is very positive
They are less bright and more subtle then the super 88s on my 1978 MC400NT. Not worse or better, just different.
The tri-sound flexibility is there and sound switching on the fly is a breeze. They are quite hot, so I rarely wind up the volume unless I want infinite creamy sustain. I am very happy with them in all switching combinations. I would be ecstatic if they had the same sound as the late 1970s and early 1980s super 58s (think Scofield) - and if ever I find some for sale I will switch them for the Super 80s to make my perfect tri-sound guitar without active electronics. the real challenge then will be finding somewhere to put the super 80s - I love the particular "muted" and less hot sound of the new Super 58s on my (Chinese, but exceptionally well built) AR 420 VLS but hell, I could always start another project..... ;-)
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Thank you,Ray175!
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Big fan of ARs here, there's definitely one in my future. Should've bought that 79 back in 81 for three hundred bones.
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super heavy as I recall
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