The Most Versatile Guitar (Mostly Jazz can stand Feedback)

[jzucker]

it's flame maple plywood just like on the gibson 175s

[kris]

Plywood and laminated wood....is it any difference in the sound?

[jzucker]

Plywood and laminated wood....is it any difference in the sound?

No, same thing. Guitar makers talk about tone-woods and laminations because it sounds better than talking about lumber and plywood, lol

[kris]

anyway what's make the sound of as-200 brighter than es-335?
ebony fingerboard?
may be curly maple wood -top?Attachment 10613

[eddy b.]

Gibson ES 137...I've had mine for 6years now. It took a while to break in but now...whoa...tone for days looks like a 175 plays like a les paul big bad guitar definitely worth a try. They're out of production but ebay has a bunch for sale I bet youcould get a good deal on one.

[Doctor Jeff]

This old thread back from the dead...

I'm gonna throw out a couple of recent issues: Godin Premiere semihollow with arched center block, Peerless full hollow thinline Sunset, D-Aquisto full hollow thinline. All very nice versatile guitars that have a full jazz tone. I tried a Collings thinline semi recently that had more of a jangly 335 tone, not as suitable for Wes-type jazz IMO. Beautiful guitar though.

[barrymclark]

For me it's the Telecaster. There really isn't anything it can't do.

[mad dog]

Really nice tune Jack. Beautiful.
MD

[Hammertone]

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...I use a Hofner Very Thin classic for jazz made in Germany very versatile but some feedback the trade off is tone .

This works for me as well in the versatility sweepstakes. These guitars have a neat "clear contour" tone circuit that mimics a coil tap on each pickup, allowing each of the mini-humbuckers to sound more single-coil-like. It works quite well. Feedback? The Classic does have a solid spruce block. I can make mine feedback if I really work on it, but how loud are you playing yours?

Gratuitous picture of one:

[snoskier63]

Beauty, hammertone! Here is a gratuitous picture of my own...1993 Guild X-500 with Guild HB-1's, and a thin soundpost to allow excellent control of feedback. It can be loud, bright and raucous, or warm and jazzy. Due to the purchase of the new American Patriarch X-500 for my 50th birthday it's for sale! See many more pictures in the for sale section if interested.



Mint and in need of someone to play it every day as I did until very recently.

[jzucker]

don't like the hofner pickups though. They aren't the standard size, either so you can't just swap gibson minis in there.

[Flat]

Ever tried a Heritage 535? If you can swing $1200, you can find a great used one.

[redwater]

Check out the Heritage Groovemaster (Kenny Burrell). Es-175 Sound AND feedback resistant!

[Loobs]

335 or a Tele w/ a hum. Equally as versatile.

[Hammertone]

don't like the hofner pickups though. They aren't the standard size, either so you can't just swap gibson minis in there.

Sorry, please explain. You don't like them because of they way they sound to you, or you don't like them because they have nothing to do with Gibson's physical design specifications? Or both?

[mispeltyoof]

Hi
If you are looking at a Tele have you considered building your own? There are many fine solid guitars available on ebay and the following costs around $130. If you want a full jazz sound you can simply fit an upgraded P/UP.
You can also build 335 clones and many other styles. I havn't heard one but they sell in hundreds and Fenders are only two lumps of timber after all .


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[GNAPPI]

I have too many guitars, too many to presume to recommend one to anyone for a purpose. I generally think you should play a bunch of guitars and pick the one that closest fits your needs and budget.

[jzucker]

don't like the tone. They are bright and thin. i sent mine to Kent Armstrong to rewind but he could only do so much because of how thin they were. The design is kind of funky to with them being held to the plastic housing with screws. And then because they are a non standard size, it's not easy to replace them without doing surgery or spending lots of money.

Kent did rewind them and they sounded better but still very thin and he apologized in advance but it was worth a shot...

Sorry, please explain. You don't like them because of they way they sound to you, or you don't like them because they have nothing to do with Gibson's physical design specifications? Or both?