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    As I have been reading about "that" jazztone, and it seems that it is different from person to person.

    Does anyone have any experience with this amp, the Music Man HD One-Thirty 410?
    The combo with 4x10's?

    Anyone use it for jazz? And get a nice tone from it?

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    My buddy Jerry had one for a while, but got rid of it after his hernia operation.

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    Hehe.
    I guess it is heavy then..
    I could get a chance to buy one relativly Cheap 🤓

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    I played that specific model for a few minutes in a local music store. Sounded good. Buddy of mine had the head version in for repair so I was able to open the volume up a bit more in his shop. Sounded great, but wow, that's a whole lot of loud-ass amp. Singed my eyelashes clear off. I can't imagine it would be bad for jazz, but you wouldn't be able to push it very hard in venues that seat less than 20,000.

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    I've had one 2x10" combo in the last '70s.

    It sounded simply a-friggin'-mazing!

    I was not into Jazz then, but I remember likin' it better than my Silverface Twin Reverb.

    I'd get another one in a heartbeat!

    HTH,

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    Oops

    Last edited by BigMikeinNJ; 03-13-2016 at 01:37 PM.

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    I had the stand alone 130 head back in my high vol fusion days. Freakin awesome. I used to put it on a restaurant tray stand right next to me and a 1-12 JBL cab behind me.

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    It's a great amp. The combination of solid-state preamp/tube power-amp is brilliant (and I don't mean bright tone, here). The HD-130 with 4x10 cabinet combo amp is loud and proud. Heavy? Sure. Able to generate a nice jazz tone. Oh, yeah.

    If you can get it cheap, the HD-130 is a super amp with super speakers. Music Man was putting out a great product in the 70s. A somewhat smaller package, the 1x12 amp makes a sensational jazz amp. I think it was the RP112--it was a hundred watt amp. It still commands pretty good prices, though. You'd probably do better with the HD-130 4x10.

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    I still have a 1976 Musicman 212 65W that I bought brand new. Still sounds awesome and has never seen a repair shop.
    All the Musicman amps were great IMO.

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    Solid State pre amp, 6CA7 (EL34) power tubes. Lots of clean headroom even w/ 65 watt version. Heavy,Heavy, did I say Heavy! Go w/ the 65 watt head , 1x12", or 2x10" if this is the way you want to go.

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    I read that it is supposed to sound like a Fender Twin Reverb? Is there any truth to this?
    Or is there any other who compares tonewise?

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    I have a 1x12 65 watt Music Man combo that I bought new in '78 and it's still going strong. I also had a 1x15 65 watt MM combo that I wish I hadn't traded. I think the 1x15 was intended as MM's jazz and steel guitar amp. The Music Man amps had well built output transformers. When MM discontinued amp production, Dumble bought some of the remaining stock of output transformers and these show up in some of the early Dumble amps.
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    It's true. The Music Man amps do sound like Fenders. The high-power MM with 2x12 does get a Twin Reverb-like sound with plenty of headroom. The HD-130 with 4x10 is very "Fender-y."

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    The Music Man HD series were terrific amps. Had a 65 watt 1-12 with gorgeous tone, clean, mean, or in between. Unbeatable reverb. In a moment of mental weakness, I let it go. Still regret it. If you get the amp tin question, get a good dolly and use correct hauling and lifting technique, and bask in the sheer beauty of the tone!

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    Mine came with great wheels. I love the deep switch.

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    It was Johnny Winter's gigging amp.

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    I had a 112RD back in the day; great amp!! I'm sure the 4-10 would be fine for jazz.

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    I am an a fan of Eric Gale. Played an L5 without pickup covers through a Music Man 4x10.
    You can see it in the background of this memorable John Belushi impression of Joe Cocker.
    Music Man HD one-thirty 410-ericgaleampmusicman4x10-jpg
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    Eric Gale was an incredible guitarist. I forgot that he used Music Man amps--but I will never forget his use of the L-5. Belushi, in the picture above, is plugging Gale's band "Stuff" with the t-shirt he is wearing.

    The 4x10 amp you have found cheap is almost certainly going to be a bargain for you.

    [That looks like Stuff in the picture, by the way. Isn't that Cornell Dupree on second guitar? Can't make out the drummer, but I bet it's Steve Gadd.]

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    I'll weigh in...

    I have a few twins, a quad reverb, a super reverb and few little Fenders (I fix amps and get good deals and hate giving them up ) as well as a Music Man 210HD (the same amp with 2x10's instead of 4) and EVERY Music man amp I've played has out Fendered most Fenders :-) Tone on any guitar is usable in ANY genre, IMO.

    The 410HD is basically a more powerful Fender Super Reverb (~40 watt) with MUCH more flexibility, max power (130w)or half power (65w), and deep switch. That chassis is a GREAT amp. Depending on price I'd grab it if you could. At worst you could pull it from the cab and either make a head or 2x10 cab for it.

    One word of advice... If it hasn't had caps, it's a MUST and well worth the trouble. They need nothing else, except maybe speakers, at 130w they are LOUD!!! :-)

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    Eric Gale in the Sept. 1979 issue of Guitar Player:
    "There is no other guitar but the hollowbody; I would never use a solidbody...A violin player wouldn't think of using a flat-bodied violin, right?"
    "...I like the strings to vibrate. I like to hear the tone. I use lighter gauge strings to compensate for the high action. Dean Markley, 0.010 to 0.046"
    The article indicates he used a Music Man amp with 4-10" speakers.


    Quote Originally Posted by Greentone
    That looks like Stuff i
    Yes, Stuff (with Gale on guitar) backed Joe Cocker when he toured at the time. Joe and Stuff were doing their musical number when Belushi (maybe unexpectedly?) came on stage dressed like Joe.
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    Thanks everybody for replies!
    I got myself the amp in question 🙂

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    Music Man HD one-thirty 410-image-jpg

    I was looking to replace my Fuchs ODS modded Princeton Reverb I sold to finalize my move.
    I got a Music Man HD 130 that Andy Fuchs had done his magic to. Can't wait to plug Blondie into it. It'll be here in days.
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    Big.....all MM amps are fantastic IMO. You will love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalvinMartinsen
    Thanks everybody for replies!
    I got myself the amp in question 🙂
    Well be sure to get back with your thoughts after you have a chance to feel it out