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    For sometime now I have been disatisfied with the on-board reverb on my Roland Cube 60. Love the amp and played it happily with both my tele and a range of archtops for nine years. The reverb is generic and neither one thing or the other to my ears.

    Pedals are a minefield and yet I have in mind using say Hall and Room setting mostly. Could anyone comment on suitable options please.

    This caught my attention :

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    I had an EH "Holy Grail" reverb for a while. Sounded great. I think as with a lot of these things, you need to try them out and see which ones sound good to you.

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    The holy grail is nice. The silver spring sounds awesome (i prefer it over the real spring reverb on my twin) - but it is probably too expensive.

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    Hey, you are right. The MadProfessor Silver Spring reverb pedal sounds great. Thanks for the tip. The price...$170...doesn't appear out of line with the value.

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    Subdecay ST has a nice hall and spring mode.

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    I was running a Hall of Fame but couldn't really bond with it...traded it for a Holy Grail, and love it. I always use the Hall setting,the Spring isn't as good as I like.

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    Catalin Bread "Topanga."

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    The mp silver spring is now my first choice for reverb. Tried so many. The topanga is indeed excellent too ... unbeatable for that classic spring sound. But if I could only keep one, it would be the silver spring.

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    I have the Silver Spring. It is indeed nice sounding, highly recommend. The controls are very easy to dial in. It can be dialed in to be a tad more ethereal or ambient than a pure spring reverb.

    I also have the EQD Dispatch Master which takes it to the next level in terms of ambiance, as in combines delay with deep reverb.

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    Thanks to all those who commented. Maybe it meshes nicely with the fact that I am currently learning Darn that Dream, but the video in my original post is drawing me to that particular pedal. Almost impossible to find examples locally here in rural France try, so my just bite the bullet.

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    Almost ordered the Mad Professor and then just came across the Valeton Coral Verb II (who comes up with the names). Does any forum member have direct experience of the pedal I wonder?

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    Mike Hermans is a great player, so much so that I always fall in love with his pedal demos and then I remember that they always sound this good.

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    No takers on the Valeton Coral Verb II clip?

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    I think it's a very good reverb unit (Valeton), but the clip is really dripping with reverb. When I use reverb, I use just a touch--even though my outboard Fender unit is capable of more reverberation than I could possibly ever use.

    Because the clip was advertising a reverb unit it was really calling attention to reverberation. I thought the reverb was laid on to thick on each setting...but that's just my opinion/preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greentone
    I think it's a very good reverb unit (Valeton), but the clip is really dripping with reverb. When I use reverb, I use just a touch--even though my outboard Fender unit is capable of more reverberation than I could possibly ever use.

    Because the clip was advertising a reverb unit it was really calling attention to reverberation. I thought the reverb was laid on to thick on each setting...but that's just my opinion/preference.
    Thanks for that Greentone. Entirely agree re-ddripping but have the sense that the Room and a couple of other settings may be of interest. When you say that you think it is a good reverb do you mean that you have tried one?

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    Oops! I didn't mean to leave the impression that I had tried the Valeton...I haven't. I was making the judgment based upon listening critically to the tone, shape, duration, and intensity of the reverbs on the different settings presented in the clips. The unit sounds like a very good unit.

    For my use, however, I would back the overall level of the reverb (what Fender labels "dwell") down to a fraction of what was presented. BUT, what I use wouldn't sell many reverb units. People need to really HEAR THE REVERB in a clip like that, and they do. Interestingly, the clip presented the reverb unit with a cleanly played Les Paul. I used to use a Les Paul that way...not many people (besides Les Paul) did or do. It's actually a decent guitar for that type of playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greentone
    Oops! I didn't mean to leave the impression that I had tried the Valeton...I haven't. I was making the judgment based upon listening critically to the tone, shape, duration, and intensity of the reverbs on the different settings presented in the clips. The unit sounds like a very good unit.

    For my use, however, I would back the overall level of the reverb (what Fender labels "dwell") down to a fraction of what was presented. BUT, what I use wouldn't sell many reverb units. People need to really HEAR THE REVERB in a clip like that, and they do. Interestingly, the clip presented the reverb unit with a cleanly played Les Paul. I used to use a Les Paul that way...not many people (besides Les Paul) did or do. It's actually a decent guitar for that type of playing.
    I have listened again and again to the clip and tried to 'see through' the dripping reverb represented. I love the Mad Professor example but it is only showing the one setting as in Darn that Dream and much as I enjoyed that I wonder if the rest of it's range might be of use to me? Not a reverb expect as you can probably tell with Fender Spring and the previously referred to generic onboard offering on the Cube 60 representing my entire experience to date. I really just want a little more space/ambience in my sound, but appreciate that the difference between studio quality effects like say Lexicon and budget offerings like the Behringer pedals is something of a cosmic leap. Not much to try in shops locally nor even in a larger city like Toulouse ( France ) so need to dig into clips like these.

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    Hmm? All the reverbs seem to be there in the Valeton, FWIW. I can't say, for sure, with the Mad Professor. All I can say is that what is presented in the Darn That Dream clip sounds great, and that it makes me want to order a Mad Professor for myself. I'm right on the verge of doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greentone
    Hmm? All the reverbs seem to be there in the Valeton, FWIW. I can't say, for sure, with the Mad Professor. All I can say is that what is presented in the Darn That Dream clip sounds great, and that it makes me want to order a Mad Professor for myself. I'm right on the verge of doing so.
    Agree with the Darn that Dream sample clip. No other jazz orientated clips on YT that I can find but this I did find to be informative:
    Seems to be an overall quality of sound/tone that I'm an not hearing elsewhere.

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    Pedal reverb clips can only be so helpful. A rough indicator at best, to what you might want to explore. The feel of such pedals and how the interact with other pedals (if any), amp and guitar ... that takes in-person play time.

    Even then, I'm not sure i can tell you exactly why the Silver Spring works so well for me. i've had other excellent sounding reverbs. The Red Panda reverb is one such. Beautiful sounds, and a couple different, highly useable sounds. Yet somehow that one was dispensable, while the Silver Spring instantly became essential. Guess it comes down to how the pedal works with my guitars and amps.

    MD

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    Here is a video that I recorded with the silver spring on a moderate setting. Never mind the playing.


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    and here is one with the holy grail.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankLearns
    Here is a video that I recorded with the silver spring on a moderate setting. Never mind the playing.

    Thanks for both those clips. Really helpful. Something about the MP Silver Spring that I find hard to quantify in words but it really is looking like the chosen one. Thanks to all.

    David