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My Eastman came second-hand with no keys for the case. Not a deal-breaker, but it would be nice to be able to lock it for traveling. Any Eastman owners who could post or send a photo of their keys? There are tons of case keys for sale on ebay, but I'd like to know the general shape of what I need. I've never seen an Eastman key, and the keys I have don't fit that case.
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10-26-2016 08:02 PM
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Which style case?
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It's the cello style, the standard Eastman guitar case. I've never seen any other type case from Eastman, but then I haven't seriously looked.
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Case Keys: I always lose them right away.
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I thought mine came with a key, but it's not in either of the two places I might have put it. Of course, a key only keeps honest people honest. :-)
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All mine are left in the case unused. I figure if it gets stolen a simple twist of a screwdriver will ruin the case, something I would rather not have done to it if I recover the guitar.
Its like owning a car with a convertible top, lock the doors? Not me, a $2.00 pocket knife slashing the top to shreds defeats the locks and leaves behind an expensive repair.
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I'm not a Eastman guitar owner, but use a Eastman case for my LeGrand. Sometimes i'm glad to be able to lock the case. Even if it may be to leave some other stuff in the case while i'm on stage performing.
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Throwing away the keys is the right thing to do. These locks are simple for the determined thief and frustrating to a not so determined owner when he locks the case and loses the key invariably. False sense of security.
Get a non-descript case cover and padlock the zipper instead. Or a luggage strap that can be padlocked.
Neither dissuades the determined thief but at least you can cut them off when you misplace the padlock key. Does PacSafe make a wire-mesh large enough for a guitar case?
How about these?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...tractable.html .
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...ble_cable.html
Loop it through the handle, D-ring and around the girth of the case.Last edited by Jabberwocky; 10-27-2016 at 06:44 AM.
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Of course you are essentially right, but it would be too radical for me to throw away the keys ;-).
Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
A determined thief would just take the case and walk out with it, but it also makes sense to be protected against dishonest stagehands, site-employees and so, who would not dare breaking a lock on site because their job is at risk if caught. A locked case intimidates at least those who would just by chance "snatch" something that's lying around. Not being able to find out exactly what's in the case helps a little too, for instance when leaving the guitar in a hotel room.
PS: i'm aware that here in Switzerland things are a little different than in the US ;-)Last edited by JazzNote; 10-27-2016 at 07:04 AM.
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"PS: i'm aware that here in Switzerland things are a little different than in the US ;-)"
Different? If you don't live here you do not know the half of it.
You have it, they need it, drug abuse is now a disease so in fact by locking your gear and preventing a drugged up thief from getting it you are essentially denying him his "right" to medication :-)
Diseases are a fad here... in the 60's if you were a drunk, you were a drunk, now you have a disease, same with obesity... back then fat was fat, now it's a disease.
Also if you were gay back then you were sick, now you are not. I'm waiting for "them" to make poverty, laziness, stupidity, and theft diseases so they can tax us even more to cure them, after all they have a "right" to be cured.
Listening to the news has become like a sport for me... it seems like EVERYONE but me is disadvantaged, disenfranchised, disheartened, denied rights, abused, misunderstood, underprivleged, deprived AND a victim.
Ever hear "Redistribution of wealth" ?
Sheesh.
Oh BTW, most case type keys that are stamped with a number can be had by going to a locksmith for one.
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I once took a guitar case for which I wanted a key to a luggage store and the guy pulled out a box full of keys, and found a couple that fit in a few seconds.
But it was a Mark Leaf case that I was selling, so I kinda needed to get one before selling it.
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I've always thought that keys to cases weren't to discourage thieves so much as to prevent a case from accidentally opening. I had that happen once and watched as my guitar went sliding across the floor (no damage, fortunately).
Brad
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I've lived in Boston for a couple of years in the eighties. There i got some ideas about crime rate in the US, probably it has become worse by now. Originally Posted by GNAPPI
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Actually, the crime rate across the entire US has decreased by a large margin since then, especially during the past 8 years. The rates are a matter of public record, although many people refuse to believe them.
I only want to lock the case to prevent having the latches, then the lid, from coming open during transit. It's easy enough to unlock the case with simple tools, so I'm not concerned about that, just keeping it closed until I need it open.
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I'm sure of that... but, anyone walking around with neck bling and a Rolex won't live long. Originally Posted by sgosnell
Crime rates are under reported as a matter of fact, by agencies AND victims.
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The last few times I've flown domestically in America, I was required to unlock the case anyway. It was my beater Yamaha checked-in, not carried on.
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I hear you can leave it locked if it uses a standard key the TSA already has. Supposedly there is a list or something. I haven't investigated very deeply.
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The case lock must have the TSA logo or they won't allow you to lock it as checked luggage.
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".....the crime rate across the entire US has decreased by a large margin..."
The crime rate in Williams , Oregon 97544 and the Applegate Valley.. ( we are at the So tip of same) has increased about 500% since July 15,2015.. the day marijuana was legalized. To include, shootings, 4 murders, theft, home invasion, DUI, auto and bike accidents, general mayhem,.
Just had my apples trees stripped while I was in town.
I have not locked my gate in 19 years.. I am now locking my gate.
Case keys... nearly universal.
Locking a case leads to a damaged case.. leave it unlocked and perhaps they will leave you the case.
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I immediately throw mine away too.
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So far i only dreamed of having guitars stolen. In these nightmares my L5's always disappeared with the case. In real life i have locked cases quite a few times in hotel rooms or in the dressing rooms at gigs. never had anything damaged, broken or stolen so far. If it will happen sometime in the future i certainly will think of you guys who throw away the keys ;-).
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ISTM that if someone decides to steal your guitar, they aren't going to take it out of the case, and leave you with an empty case. I can't even imagine that. They'll just take case and all, and walk away. That's much quicker and easier, and more discreet as well as more profitable. OTOH a locked latch is easily defeated. The only reason for locking is to prevent accidental opening. Cases have been known to open while being carried, with the guitar falling out. I carry unlocked cases, and even locked ones, with the lid inside toward my leg, so that if it does open, there is a better chance of keeping the guitar inside, or falling into my leg.
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I strongly disagree, another reason would be to prevent the cleaning maid in the hotel from playing one's 10'000$ guitar while being downstairs enjoying breakfast. Originally Posted by sgosnell
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Actually, it's an old trick. Take the guitar and leave the case. The owner doesn't notice anything unusual, and by the time you happen to open the case, the thief is long gone. Originally Posted by sgosnell
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This thread reminds me of my first trip to Russia. Before departing the states I invested in a grand worth of shirts, ties, and packed them in brand new luggage, which came complete with luggage locks. They were cute. So of course, I used them on all 5 pieces of luggage.
As it turned out, my departing flight was delayed, only 5 hours....hey, what's an hour or two matter. This in turn meant my connecting flight from Moscow to Kiev was missed by the time I arrived in Moscow. Not a problem. Ex KGB agents were gracious enough to put 30 of us up in Moscow's top flight airport hotel overnight...no charge, thanks to Aeroflot. You weren't allowed to leave the 5th floor, where all of us were, but who cares about being held hostage, it's a free room!
18 hours and a complimentary breakfast later, it was off to Kiev, a day later than planned, but now just a few short hours away.
Arriving Borispol airport Kiev, I see my luggage for the first time since departing the states some 36 hours earlier. Wait a minute...that can't be my luggage...my luggage is wearing those fancy dancy freebie locks. Okay, not any more.
I'd later learn that this is commonplace for luggage from the West to have locks removed...and okay, don't be surprised if your luggage is a little lighter. In my case, my luggage was only $1k short of brand new shirts and ties. But hey, boy was I happy they left my handy steamer....which came in real handy when I had to go shirt shopping in Kiev...but the now missing new DC convertor I'd purchased because I was well prepared and thought I'd thought of everything...not so much.
But those little keys sure are cute!
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