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Hi,
I was usually looking for used gear on ebay and reverb.com. Recently I discovered zikinf.com - completely French but there are more good archtops than on ebay in Europe! This made me think that maybe the European market has other websites of that kind (maybe because of the high ebay fees?).
I'm looking for places which include guitars and amps in Europe. In Poland we use allegro.pl, but that's pretty obvious for every Pole
So I'm looking for a German/Italian/Spanish/Dutch etc. local-ebay
Any suggestions?
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03-04-2017 02:21 PM
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Yes, the national Ebay sites from UK and GE are great. As well as the Ebay Kleinanzeigen amd Quoka in Germany, and Gumtree in the UK. Furthermore I look also at 2dehands.be in Belgium.
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Here's the best one for France: Petites annonces - Ile-de-France - leboncoin
Originally Posted by jzjazz
Hi,
I was usually looking for used gear on ebay and reverb.com. Recently I discovered zikinf.com - completely French but there are more good archtops than on ebay in Europe! This made me think that maybe the European market has other websites of that kind (maybe because of the high ebay fees?).
I'm looking for places which include guitars and amps in Europe. In Poland we use allegro.pl, but that's pretty obvious for every Pole So I'm looking for a German/Italian/Spanish/Dutch etc. local-ebay
Any suggestions?
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Mercatino Musicale - Strumenti musicali nuovi e usati
Italy's best.
HTH,
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This is great - lots of amps! All these sites are so much better than ebay! Thanks guys! Originally Posted by LtKojak
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You should also find the prices in the italian site lower than the rest. Originally Posted by jzjazz
HTH,
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I second Mercatino musicale in Italy and Leboncoin in France.
As for the latter, make sure you choose "Toute la France" in the pull-down menu, because the home page refers to the Paris area only (Ile de France).
In the Netherlands: http://www.marktplaats.nl/
As a more general comment, when dealing with total strangers in another country it can be a good idea to use Paypal exclusively as a means for payment and benefit from its purchase protection for sellers/buyers.
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thanks! apparently I was searching in Paris only Originally Posted by eblydian
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We have two sites in Sweden. Blocket is for all kinds of stuff and Vend.se - Kop och salj musikprylar! is just for music gear.
Happy hunting!
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Good thread. I have often wondered why the Old Continent does not have its own Gear Page or similar.
We in Finland have this thing called Muusikoiden.net (means: musicians').
Muusikoiden.net
There is a lot of information, conversation and of course a marketplace:
Muusikoiden.net - Tori
The search page:
Muusikoiden.net - Tori - Haku
Of course the language can be a challenge.
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Not for the aliens from outer space that create the basics of the Suomi language. Originally Posted by Herbie
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Just wanted to let you know that I created a web app to sell and buy guitar gear in Europe. It's been online just one week so it's quite a beta version but I'll improve it a lot during the upcoming weeks. The goal is to create a marketplace to buy and sell gear within the European Union, that includes UK for now, until they totally leave. As you said there are nice local sites in almost every country but nothing to sell across the EU.
GuitarMart.eu - The guitar marketplace for the European guitarist.
hope you like the idea, and of course any feedback is more than welcome.
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Wow! At last! Originally Posted by MilesPG
Great work!
But hey, no cheap Seymour Duncan Antiquity P-90 Dogear Neck (Black) pickups available? Could You some one amend the situation?!
Kidding aside, can I spread the word about the site or do You want to develop it in peace?
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Thanks!!! Originally Posted by Herbie
As I said it's in a very early stage, I actually launched the website 1 week ago so the supply is quite limited and I'd like to add some nice features like pages for professional sellers, the ability to follow a listing to get alerts on price changes, follow a search and also get alerts on your email and more stuff, all that stuff will come in the next weeks.
Sure you can spread the word, that will help a lot!!
many thanks
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Cool. Is it free to use ? Or do you pay some mebership/listing/buying fee ?
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Totally free. My plan is to charge a monthly fee to professional sellers but this is a mid-term goal. Originally Posted by fws6
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LtKojak, is it possible to buy from other EU countries? Great prices! Originally Posted by LtKojak
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Niiiice, go for it! Even Two Rock amp is there
Btw. if you need a logo, I'm a graphic designer
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Thanks Vaizeo! I'll keep that in mind, at some point I'll need a nice logo
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"Tulemme rauhassa, haluamme tavata johtajanne." Originally Posted by LtKojak
Not for the aliens from outer space that create the basics of the Suomi language.
Well, it wasn't so hard, was it?
Thanks for the compliment anyway! We Finns have used to enjoy being considered... umm... original.
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On the occasion of a(nother) woeful offer on Ebay: a hint, where I personally would not buy used European gear. According to observation by myself, by friends and other interested parties, that commercial vintage seller - one of the largest in Germany at the moment - has attracted negative attention several times, and, to my knowledge, has never been able or willing to listen to reasoned objections.
It's about an archtop guitar built and sold probably in the early 60's by Gustav Glassl; an hommage to Artur Lang's unique 1950's models with the split sound holes and the flat Maccaferri-style cutaway.
Though Glassl was 14 years younger than Lang, he had started out much earlier than Lang with the making of archtops. Before the outbreak of WW II Glassl's teacher were both Franz Hirsch (the original maker of Roger guitars until 1946/47) and - similar to Lang some years before - the efficient Schönbach violin making school. Already in 1946, unusually fast after the war, Glassl was able to make archtops at Arnold Hoyer in West Germany. Around 1949 he became self-employed, still in the neighborhood of Hoyer, and made quite a number of fine archtops in his small workshop, later also 'beat' guitars (like the Saturn), until his death in 1995. His main consumer and wholesaler was the known Hopf Company, though he had also been selling guitars under his own name - problem is that he often didn't use labels.
Glassl and Lang knew each other, and Glassl was among the luthiers who soon had been recognizing the extraordinary quality of Lang's archtop design and craftmanship, acknowledging without envy. There is even evidence that, to some degree, Lang had been helpful to Glassl with building these large and rare guitars (almost 18'' wide), which got known as the Hopf-Glassl 320 L Super models. The 'L' is probably standing for Lang, and not for the otherwise common abbreviation 'luxury'. This model was either offered in a blonde finish or red sunburst where parts of the sides remained blonde, or (later) in a three-tone sunburst. At this time I'm not aware of more than two or three dozen 320 models ever built.
The guitar in question was sold as a project to the actual seller (sic!) in just so-so condition in 2016. At that time, the original red sunburst finish had already been stripped on the top and partly on the sides. Also, some butcher had tried to change this guitar into a weird ten-string axe...
In December 2016 it was reoffered for the first time by the actual seller, now stripped down again to a six-string guitar and refinished quite badly in 'repair concealing' black color (it looks like they have tried to give the impression of an pre-existing older refinish that was not quite expertly done), without mentioning the (self-done or self-ordered) refinish at all, much less the pre-existing changes. The tuners were reversed sideways (left/right). The vibrato tailpiece must have been replaced by an inappropriate Hofner piece with the engraving 'Cupol'. The best is the offered fantasy story of the Cupol Studios in Sweden, which the guitar in question very likely has never seen. I love all kinds of narratives, also fictitious ones - the latter, however, not in connection with rare, handmade vintage archtops...
The description claims (translated): "Everything is fixed on the guitar and it has no cracks or other damage. A piece of ornamental binding at the neck-body-transition was evidently glued on at one time... On the upper sides there is a retouched reworked site, which is difficult to photograph." Just one problem is that on the auction pics that "retouched reworked site" looks old, or somehow 'aged'.
This guitar has been offered several times since then. Meanwhile the seller has added to his remaining description: "The finish is probably red.The black lacquer expanded and shrank on the top and a few fine lacquer cracks [appeared], where you can guess the [original] red color... Apparently, the guitar was refinished a long time ago... "
I leave the reader here to make his/her own judgment. Because these wonderful guitars are little known - not easy to judge for the outsider - and this one is offered internationally, the present notes are important to me. Glassl archtops, even his laminated, though fully acoustically constructed guitars, which can still be found for as cheap as a few hundred bucks, the more his fully carved flagship models, to which the 320 L Super and the 320 SL belong, were masterly built and finished - also in the international comparison - and naturally show the corresponding high quality sound characteristics we are looking for in acoustic archtops.
The pictures below show the previous condition of the guitar on the left, the current 'new' condition (as it is offered on Ebay) on the right. The photo of the peghead front has been lightened up to reveal the former bores of the additional tuners.
What's the request of the vendor? Please note the photos. Ok - done!
Last edited by Ol' Fret; 05-12-2017 at 05:04 AM.
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Hi - i have seen this guitar for sale, I have also been caught out by similar sellers
I bought a Klira archtop - the neck had been sprayed badly with black spray but looked like an old touchup.... until i stripped off the paint ! please see attached photos...
The Hopf is still a nice guitar, despite the sad mess it is in - what would it be worth as it is now?
timLast edited by tuxtimb; 05-19-2017 at 03:38 AM.
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