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    I am reading a lot about folks testing Peerless guitars and saying they would swap out the quote "crappy electronics". The D"Angelico guitars people say the electronics are very good. Both guitars are made in South Korea. So is there actually a difference? I have an opportunity to by a Peerless Cremona 16 used at a good price. Thanks for any info you can provide. The Cremona new cost $2395. The D"angelico new is $1299.
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    I have 2 D'Angelico and I would love to buy one more. However, on both of my D'Angelico's I swapped out the Kent Armstrong pick ups. I did not like them at all. In fact, I do not know one person that bought a D'Angelico and did not change the pick ups.

    In my Excel, I put a Benedetto pick up. In my DH, I put 2 Classic Gibson 57's.

    I think that the D'Angelico's are excellent guitars better than the Peerless I once owned.

    I had a Peerless Sunset which I sold simply because I was not using it enough. It was a nice guitar. I paid it $400 (if you can believe it). It sounded great right out of the box. I got a wide variety of sounds out of the stock pick ups. A very nice guitar, well made, great quality for the price. But given a choice, i would say the D'Angelico's are better.

    I hope that helps

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    Peerless makes a hell of an instrument, regardless of price. The neck on my monarch was rock solid, maybe the best I've had, Gibson included.

    take this with a grain of salt. I let a guy play my monarch, he said it was better than a D'ang he played. FAR from a scientific shootout, but it's better than nothing. Take care.

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    I like Peerless. My Sunset has Epi Classic 57's that sound great, and I don't see the need for a change.

    The current D'Angelico are well-made as well. The Korean manufacturers have really gotten their act down. Hard to go wrong with a recent Korean guitar IMO.

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    I love my Peerless Cremona 16", with the stock pickups, whatever they are...

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    I agree. I've stated my approval of Peerless instruments more times than I can count. An incredible value in the $1500-2500 price points. I concur with Doctor Jeff. They make a hell of a "performance quality" guitar at very reasonable prices. My Monarch 16 is one of my favorite guitars. In some ways, I like it as well as my Heritage.

    I also agree that, by-and-large, Korean made guitars are very well made with a build quality and attention to detail that should make Gibson blush. I would not hesitate to buy another Peerless or a D'Angelico. Although I have never played a Korean made D'A, everything I've read would indicate that they represent an outstanding value. I have played several Peerless instruments and they were all uniformly great.

    These instruments along with the Comins GCS-1 and others clearly indicate that it is possible to acquire a good quality, well made, great playing instrument without spending a small fortune.

    Slightly OT, I met Bill Comins at the Artisan Guitar Show in Harrisburg, PA a few weeks ago. He showed a prototype of a full size hollow body Jazz box to accompany the GCS-1 semi-hollow body. It will also be made in Korea and the expected price will be "around $2K".

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    I haven't play many D'Angelico's but I do regret selling my Peerless Renaissance. It was very well built. The fit and finish were excellent.

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    I just traded a Monarch for a Jazz City. Both are really fine instruments with quality far above what one would expect at their price points. The Korean made versions of all the Jimmy D knock offs (like Peerless and D'Angelico) are great guitars IMHO.

    I prefer Peerless though. They go for a design based on the best looking Jimmy D designs and, for some reason, I really like that archtop design. Also, most of the their models have cool features like ebony pickguards. Not sure how many models the competition have that have things like that. And every time I have picked up a D'Angelico they never felt as weight balanced as the Peerless. That may just be me though.

    The only faults have been finish cracks at the jack. The previous owner of the Jazz City had it fixed with a Les Paul type. I think he had the area reinforced as well. Easy guitars to change out the pups and pots if you want. I am good with stock for now. No downside that I feel is worth changing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doublea A
    In fact, I do not know one person that bought a D'Angelico and did not change the pick ups.
    Technically I don't know you but you can say you know of one :-)

    I have not and have no need to change the pups in either my EXS-1DH or EX-DC.

    Then again, I've never changed pups in a Gibson either. Truthfully I do not think ALL D'A repro owners feel compelled to change pickups any more than other brands do.

    Their build quality is outstanding, on a par with the very best Ibanez models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GNAPPI
    Technically I don't know you but you can say you know of one :-)

    I have not and have no need to change the pups in either my EXS-1DH or EX-DC.

    Then again, I've never changed pups in a Gibson either. Truthfully I do not think ALL D'A repro owners feel compelled to change pickups any more than other brands do.

    Their build quality is outstanding, on a par with the very best Ibanez models.
    I have a Korean EXDC, maybe 7 years old or a little more. Original pickup. But, the guitar sounds pretty dark. I'm not sure if that's the pickup or the strings or ???.

    In any case, I liked it for quite a while and used it as my main guitar. Eventually, it seemed to lose some upper end clarity. I assumed it was fret wear, but meticulous fretwork by an expert did not restore it. I moved on from the guitar.

    BTW, build quality was excellent except for the way the nut was slotted. The low E was too close to the edge. I had a new one made which solved the problem. Oh, and the case that came with it had a badly installed latch (pretty much useless). Bought it by mail, so I just let it go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GNAPPI
    Technically I don't know you but you can say you know of one :-)

    I have not and have no need to change the pups in either my EXS-1DH or EX-DC.

    Then again, I've never changed pups in a Gibson either. Truthfully I do not think ALL D'A repro owners feel compelled to change pickups any more than other brands do.

    Their build quality is outstanding, on a par with the very best Ibanez models.
    Meet another. I see no need to change anything on my my D'A EX-DC . It sounds fine, and I wouldn't want to mess that up.

    John

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    I have a Peerless Songbird for about a year now. I previously had GIbson ES-330 59 VOS reissue. I even had it professionally set up by my go to Luthier. I never gelled with that Gibson, but I'm in love with this Songbird, which I never needed to get set up. Perfect out of the box. That being said, the pickups sucked. I put in SD antiquities and they're awesome. The hardware is just fine though. I would not change the tuners, they're rock solid. The bridge is on the cheaper side, but I see no reason to replace it at this point.

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    I have a MIK D'angelico EXl-1 with TI Jazz Flats the stock pickup sounded thin and tinny on any amp I tried it with. Replaced it with a Shadow Attila Zollar AZ 48 and been happy with any amp I have tried it with

    Will

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    I didn't mean to offend D'Angelico owners. I changed my pickups and a few of my friends that own D'Angelicos changed their pickups for the same reason I did. If you like the original pickups, that is fine. I did not mean to offend.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Doublea A
    I didn't mean to offend D'Angelico owners. I changed my pickups and a few of my friends that own D'Angelicos changed their pickups for the same reason I did. If you like the original pickups, that is fine. I did not mean to offend.


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    There was no offense taken at all, well at least by me :-) I just mentioned that I had no problems with the pups because I was on the opposite end of the spectrum and had not known anyone who felt the pups are lacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doublea A
    I didn't mean to offend D'Angelico owners. I changed my pickups and a few of my friends that own D'Angelicos changed their pickups for the same reason I did. If you like the original pickups, that is fine. I did not mean to offend.


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    No offense taken by me either. But watch your step, bub. You might not get off so easy next time.

    John