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Thanks again to all! Much appreciated.
This would be so much easier if I had a tube amp!
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04-22-2020 09:55 AM
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You can use the blonde as a pedal. Here's a video I made last summer...into a poly tone.
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I don't know if not having a tube amp is a show stopper for what you want to achieve. If you want light drive in not so loud volumes and have a quality SS amp to begin with, I'm sure there are very good options to get tubey tones indistinguishable from an actual tube amp.
Originally Posted by Greco
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Thank you so much! Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
I now have hope and that pedal has more than enough drive on tap for my needs.
Excellent demo!Last edited by Greco; 04-22-2020 at 04:03 PM.
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Hi,
I have a litle jazz and use either boss blues driver or way huge green rhino. With either, I can get a subtle touch of drive to fatten up the tone of my strat. I also have a les paul double-cut with P90s. works nice with the pedals too. You can go crazy with the drive on either too.
I like the extra adjustments that the green rhino gives.
Hans
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Well, glad I could help. Originally Posted by Greco
I really think it's the most useful pedal I ever purchased.
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I got this cheapo version a while ago
Harley Benton American TrueTone – Thomann UK
I'm no expert on dirt sounds and play clean most of the time
but yes It's nice for an occasional bit of oooph and hair
into an otherwise clean SS amp .....Last edited by pingu; 04-24-2020 at 07:56 PM.
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Is this virtually the same as the Joyo pedal? Originally Posted by pingu
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I have both the Joyo and the Harley Benton (which is out of production, I think). I got one as backup. They are practically identical. The housing of the Joyo is in a brighter shade of orange, if that's any consideration.
I have used them in front of a Marshall AD 50. Thanks to the inbuilt speaker sim, this is the only pedal I tried that doesn't sound scratchy in front of it - meaning that, if I want to, I can go from super clean to three stages of overdrive.
The only noise I get is when I turn up the drive or voice too far. It starts to hiss at a certain volume. (The Tech21 seems to be the same, judging from Jeff's demo.) However, I never go near that volume anyway. I'd sooner use it to get some sparkly Twin sounds.
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Again, many thanks to all for your input.
I hope other LJ owners are also finding this interesting and helpful.
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yeah I reckon Originally Posted by Greco
amazing what you can get for a few bucks .....
they are also a nice backup thing to carry
in case you have amp problems
you can go guitar > pedal > pa or anything
land get through the gig ok
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I think I found the perfect, simple solution combo to add versatility to my DV Jazz 212.
I plug in my Radial Engineering Trimode Classic in front of it. It is valve driven and acts as a pre-amp. It is highly adjustable for equalisation, gain, mis boost and/or filter, volume and gain.
It has three channels — true bypass which leaves the jazzy tone of the DV untouched; channel 1 (meant for rhythm) which I use for bluesy, gentle rock and ballady rhythm as well as for a little bit of dirt on jazzy leads; channel 2 (designed for lead) which I used for bluesy/rocky leads with more grunt and sustain than channel 1.
I’ve dialled only a small amount of gain/drive in both channels 1 and 2 and more mid-boost in 2 than in 1. The pedal is able to deliver massive overdrive/distortion/fuzz at high gain levels but that is not my game.
I play Ernie Ball Silhouette Special, Heritage H530, Heritage H535, Duesenberg D6 Baritone and a blackwood mini Maton. All work fine in the set up, with minor eq adjustments for the D6 and the mini Maton.
I also play into a Matchless Lightning Reverb 112 with a more extensive pedal board, but that is not so easy or light to carry around.
Trimode - Radial Engineering
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I will preface this with, I own a lot of pedals, a good number of amps, and a handful of guitars. They tend towards professional gear that is not inexpensive or super expensive. I can never really predict what od, dirt, or fuzz pedal will work with an amp and guitar combination.
It is a game I play. I imagine the sonic structure of a given amp and guitar, and then try and pick the right pedal. It amazes me, how often I am wrong, sometimes really wrong. (I have also had a number of payed engineering gigs. I can think in pitches or frequencies).
It is a try type of thing.
(I do think the my Origin Revival should work well with all my stuff, but I have not tried it out with everything. We are looking at a factorial here).
When I read your post, I thought a blues driver might work. I do not have a green rhino, but is it a TS type pedal? Once again, I have had that thought a bunch of times and have been surprised by how badly my guess was.
What I really dig is a Rat type pedal with the ability to mix in some clean. However, I have a few different Rat type pedals, (favorite one is a VFE alphadog) and, they have also let me down. (They can be gloriously with the right guitar and amp).
If the local music store has a DV Jazz, take your axe (unless the also have the one you play), and roll through a few pedals: TS type, Bluesdrive (I can not remember the type of circuitry, the marshal one), Rat type pedal (which is really a fuzz), the old DOD type (290?), and a few AITB type of pedals (Fender(s), Marshal, Vox, Hiwat... am I missing any typical ones).
... or, play the buy and sell game, however I end up keeping everything. I think they are putting GAS in the DSM VI... well, they should.
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What I use for a boost pedal is a Boss GE07. Because I have it. It was thrown into a deal for a Vibrolux Reverb amp back in the early 90s. It's a good EQ pedal, but it also does boost and the reverse, as needed. You can just run the EQ flat if you want, and move the gain slider as necessary if you need no EQ. Depending on the situation, I increase the gain and use it as a boost for solos, or decrease it and use it on for rhythm, off for solos. It's a very versatile pedal, and although I also have a Joyo American Sound and a Nocturne Junior Barnyard, I almost never bring them out of the closet. I prefer the natural sound of my archtops through an amp, sometimes with a little EQ, sometimes with a little boost. I cannot abide distortion. But I suppose I'm in the minority in that opinion.
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Hey! Not sure if you already found the one or you're still in search for it.
I'm playing an archtop (Ibanez AFC151 with a Kent Armstrong 12-pole PAF) through a DV Mark LJ for the majority of time.
This was the sound I was looking for, when I wanted just a touch of drive:
I tried a bounch of drive pedals with no success. The TS (original and clones) had too much midrange boost, the others like BD-2, RAT (original and clones), KLON (clones), were either too flat, too fuzzy or had not enough gain (because of the pickup output).
But then I found this gem: TubeDreamer72 - JAM pedals
With my setup (Ibanez AFC151 with KA 12-pole, Tubedreamer 72, DV Mark LJ) and my years, the sound was spot on! Unfortunately it is discontinued, but you can find them used around.
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The Tubedreamer72 is a Tubescreamer clone. But voiced for less mid boost and less gain. Originally Posted by Adam C.
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I am really happy with running the Digitech Bad Monkey OD pedal into the Little Jazz. It has fattened up my sound coming out of the amp. The Bad Monkey pedal has both low and high eq control as well as level and drive. I run the level at 9 o'clock and the drive either off or at 9 o'clock as well.
Pedal is discontinued but available on the used market.
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The Tumnus is a wonderful pedal - not quite a Zen, but pretty close. I also have a Dumbler and a J Rockett Touch, which are both similar but not as controllable. The Tumnus has 3 band EQ that really works, and its sweet spot is wider than the others. Both the Dumbler and the Touch can sound just about as fine and they both have settings that give pretty good pick control over drive. But they're very senstitive and you have to find the spot again when you need to play significantly louder or softer. I set the Tumnus and forget it - and those settings are the same for any of my amplifiers from Li'l Jazz to VIbrolux. I even use it through the Leslie 3300 for the occasional SRV side trip.
I use the Tumnus Deluxe that Stevebol posted, which lists for $200. It has switchable low / hi gain, 3 band EQ, and switchable buffered / bypass "off". There's a smaller, less expensive ($150) Tumnus that only has Gain, Treble, and Volume controls. The little one can sound as good with specific guitars and amps, but I didn't think it was as versatile and find the extra $ for the Deluxe have been well worth it to me. I keep the Touch and Dumbler as backups but haven't used them in a long time.
The other great little drive I've found is the Hotone Grass pedal. I don't think they make them any more, which is a shame. This cool little green box was between my two little pedals and my Tumnus in versatility and sounded great with several amps when I tried it. It's smooth, sweet, and controllable. Truth be told, I was just too cheap to spring for another $50 and I wish I'd bought one. If I ever find a clean used one, I'll grab it and suggest you all do the same. The Grass is in that "really shoulda bought it when I could" category with 6" Henriksen amps, Zen Drive pedals, Soloway guitars, early archtops from Dale Unger / John Zeidler / Jim Triggs etc etc.
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