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for some reason i dont care for the roland jazz chorus.My question is 2 fold.Can you adjust the clean to be other than jc clean?and would an 80 gx or the 60 be a preferable for solo guitar work.Chord melody i guess on a mainly Eastman 403?rather an open question sorry
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07-09-2022 12:52 PM
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The JC amps are polarizing: people love them or hate them!
[I hate them] but I've seen people talk about using an EQ pedal or some other effects if you want to explore different sounds. If you're a lover, either amp will work, but try pedals for another vibe.
[and yes, I've owned and gigged with a 120 in the distant past, and I love hearing John Abercrombie play one, but that's it.]Last edited by marcwhy; 07-09-2022 at 01:00 PM. Reason: update
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Thanks i could never get to like that JC chorus at all.Was at small mom and pop shop that had a small cube bass.I tried and was surprised that iliked the sound coming out sostarted foolin with all those button to see what they did got confused stopped fiddlein and started to play and BAM there it was that chorus. i apologized to my guitar and ran out of the building.haha just kidding i am not a hater.i am super happy that skilled players can do great with it.
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The bass player on my gig last night was someone with whom I'd not played before. He had a Roland Bass Cube, and I was very impressed with it. i think it's a 12" 60, and it looked the same as the latest models on their website except that it did not have the two ports at the bottom. It was tight and clean with bass and guitar, had great tone, and should be a wonderful amp for solo jazz guitar. I didn't get to play with it much, but I could live with it very happily as a clean, solid moderate sized amp for jazz.
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just saw one for $325.saw one on reverb for less.but everything i read about reverb scares me.should i be?
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Never liked the JC clean channel on the cubes. Always proffered to use the Fender or Vox model and set the gain low, volume high.
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I have a GX and basically use the JC channel, just occasionally the acoustic sim. and the dyna amp setting for overdrive. You have other sims on the (left of the) dial* which can be kept clean by setting the gain control low. Simple. *Edit: one of them is the Brit Combo.
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What country are you in? I know there are a lot of stories about "deals gone awry" on reverb/ebay, and I bet there are even more "deals that went well" here, too. I'm just a guy who buys and sells stuff -- I'm not a retailer! -- and as of today, I have over 60 transactions on reverb, and "100%" positive ratings, with no problems. Maybe I'm "lucky," or maybe reverb isn't "all bad." YMMV.
Originally Posted by EarlBrother
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I've had a Cube 60 (the model prior to the 60X and 80X) for quite a few years. I've used it to gig but mainly for rehearsals. It's a workhorse, solid, dependable, portable. I too don't particularly like the clean channel sound; it's not exactly fat sounding although sits pretty well in a mix with a band. I typically do exactly what Jeff said and run the gain low and the volume higher on one of the amp models on the other channel (the tweed one, if I remember correctly).
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I've gigged with a borrowed 40x. Okay, not great. I much prefer the Little Jazz.
I own a vintage JC55. Tone is a little icy, for want of a better term. But, I can get my sound, more or less, it's as loud as I want to play and it weighs something like 25 lbs. Not the most reliable amp -- I've had to reheat the solder connections to all the knobs -- twice, so far.
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south east USA
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JC tends to take pedals really well, so I would assume you could get a clean that should work. That is really the strength of the JC and also its’ chorus. Try an AITB pedal.
My typical thoughts about Roland/Boss gear is that they are produced to sound forward. That might be heard as clinical but it can also work really well.
I have never had any luck in getting a JC to sound like a tube amp. It is SS through and through. For fun I have tried a number of expensive pre-amps in front of it. If I want a tube sound, I grab a different amp. (I should get one of the new UA AITB pedals and see if that works).
I have had the most compliments about my tone while using a JC setup but I was not playing jazz. It had a lot with how well it was balancing with the band and how well it took pedals.
I have not used my JC rig setup for a few years now but it did a great job, however it was a little bit heavy to carry.
Just in case it is useful: I have noticed a difference between newer and vintage JCs. The chorus in the older (vintage) JCs are a bit richer and sound a little more multi-dimensional. However, my JC 40 chorus still sounds really good. It is really close to my older JCs.
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I'm one of the people that really love the JC-120 sound. I don't actually use Chorus, but I liked the tone of the amp. The older JCs do sound better than the newer ones. I did have a Roland Cube 80X for a very short time, the JC Clean model did not sound anything like my JC-120. I found using the Fender Blackface model with the gain low and volume turned up gave the best clean sound.
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The smart move by Roland would have been some sort of classic orange Cube sound. Should have been called the Bickert setting. Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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They never went back to the orange cube sound. I still have my orange cube-60 which is approaching it's 40th birthday soon. I think I'll take it out to dinner and a movie, and then get it's reverb working again, as a birthday gift. Originally Posted by GodinFan
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My old (vintage?) Orange Cube 60 has been stored since buying it back from a buddy of mine who passed a couple years ago. Originally Posted by sgcim
Your note made me smile, and motivated me to dust off and fire up that old rig.
Still sounds warm and fat for jazz, and versatile as ever for other music styles.
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The speakers are at least 50% of the sound of an amp. Changing them could yield pleasing results. Then there is the can of worms that is "what speaker to buy".
I would advise dragging your Roland to the local guitar store and trying out all the available cabinets, find what speakers are in the one you like the best, and buy those.
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I always wondered about trying to stick a better speaker in the orange cube, they're pretty narrow from front to back. Originally Posted by vintagelove
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An Eminence Cannabis Rex is a good replacement. That’s what’s in mine. Originally Posted by Woody Sound
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I bought a Roland Jazz Chorus several years ago and did not like it either. I returned it because I could never get the right sound. I ended up buying a Roland 80 xl. I use it on the acoustic setting and have been satisfied with the results. The issue for me is that as I age is the weight. But as far as the sound is concerned, no issues. I have not had any experience with the Roland 60 - but I do have a Roland 30 that I use as a practice amp. I bought a Hendricksen Bud 10 recently and have been very pleased thus far. Hope this helps.
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I have used Reverb many times over the years and never had a problem. However, I consider myself lucky. I have heard many horror stories from folks on this Forum.
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Regarding the Roland 80XL and later 80GX models...The XL model has an extension output jack in the rear. The 'upgraded' GX model does not. Originally Posted by FredH
Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.
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After more than 20 years of heavy use, the speaker in my orange Cube-60 finally dried up and developed cracks, so my tech put in a Weber speaker. Originally Posted by Woody Sound
The change in the sound of the amp was incredible. It went from an Ed Bickert sound to a Kenny Burrell/Johnny Smith sound. I felt like my Borys B120 had a Dearmond RC-1100 in there instead of my SD/SL pickup.
Like vintagelove said, speakers are a huge factor in the sound of an amp. When you make that change, be prepared for a big change in your sound.
The Cube-60 is useless for today's musical theater work. It's a great jazz amp, but when I got a PV Transtube 112 EFX, I got ten times the amount of calls for shows.
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