Looking for the ultimate Jazz/Fusion Allrounder Guitar

**e.h.stark** · 04-30-2023, 07:03 AM

Hello,

i am looking for a guitar that has following specs:

- less than 7 pounds in weight
- mostly for clean but can handle some
gain
- max. 25" scalelength
- max 22 frets
- comfortable to play (no 16 inch wide
body and good fret access)
- two humbucker (split option would be
great but is not a must) or two p90s
- rather slim neck
- price <2000

if anything comes to your mind please let me know

thanks!

**docsteve** · 04-30-2023, 03:37 PM

Eastman Romeo? Not sure about the weight, though.

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**339 in june** · 04-30-2023, 03:51 PM

Comins GCS1 or GCS1 ES
Not sure about the weight but quite confortable to play, 2 humbuckers with split, 24.75 scale, nice cleans and grits
Hard to beat IMO

And by the way, welcome to the forum

**John A.** · 04-30-2023, 07:00 PM

PRS S2 Custom 22? Pretty sure both the solid and the semi are under 7 lbs (semi for sure). S2 Vela is,
too.

Maybe a 90’s Guild Bluesbird?
Not sure about the weight, but they’re chambered and lighter than a Les Paul

Seventy Seven Albatross? Also not sure about the weight, but they should be close.

**jads57** · 04-30-2023, 11:44 PM

Carvin or Kiesel Alan Holdsworth HH2

Kiesel Guitars: Allan Holdsworth Signature

**st.bede** · 05-01-2023, 02:59 AM

I really like my Ibanez AM205-AV Prestige. I think it could do the whole fusion thing, but I have not really ran it like that. Maybe more like a Ford fusion, then say a Holdworth type thing.

**Christian Miller** · 05-01-2023, 05:55 AM

Originally Posted by e.h.stark

Hello,

i am looking for a guitar that has following specs:

- less than 7 pounds in weight
- mostly for clean but can handle some
gain
- max. 25" scalelength
- max 22 frets
- comfortable to play (no 16 inch wide
body and good fret access)
- two humbucker (split option would be
great but is not a must) or two p90s
- rather slim neck
- price <2000

if anything comes to your mind please let me iknow ? thanks

D’Angelico Excel Mini DC?

**Christian Miller** · 05-01-2023, 06:00 AM

I also always liked the look of the Fretking John Etheridge model but I don’t think those exist any more.

EDIT: they do. Can’t vouch for the quality.

otoh I’ve been quietly impressed by every modern D’Angelico I’ve played. I think if you shell out for one of their higher end models you’d be getting a lot of guitar for the money compared to some of the more established marques. Also I think the designs and colours are distinctive and lovely.

**e.h.stark** · 05-01-2023, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by docsteve

Eastman Romeo? Not sure about the weight, though.

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im an eastman fan for sure! the romeo is 16" tho isnt it?

**e.h.stark** · 05-01-2023, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by 339 in june

Comins GCS1 or GCS1 ES
Not sure about the weight but quite confortable to play, 2 humbuckers with split, 24.75 scale, nice cleans and grits
Hard to beat IMO

And by the way, welcome to the forum

Thanks for the warm welcome!
The comins look really pretty, but they are kind of rare here in europe. Gonna look out for one anyways

**GuyBoden** · 05-01-2023, 06:54 AM

Kiesel Carvin HH2 Allan Holdsworth Signature Headless 6 String Electric.

Kiesel Guitars: Allan Holdsworth Signature

**e.h.stark** · 05-01-2023, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by John A.

PRS S2 Custom 22? Pretty sure both the solid and the semi are under 7 lbs (semi for sure). S2 Vela is,
too.

Maybe a 90’s Guild Bluesbird?
Not sure about the weight, but they’re chambered and lighter than a Les Paul

Seventy Seven Albatross? Also not sure about the weight, but they should be close.

i dont know why but i somehow never clicked with prs, maybe its just the modern look or i haven't found the right one yet..

i tried some guilds i can't recall having much fun with them!

the seventy seven Albatross looks promising, im gonna look out for one but they are very rare in europe

**supersoul** · 05-01-2023, 07:54 AM

How about an SG?

I had one for a while and thought it sounded fantastic. It is different sounding than a Les Paul.

2 humbuckers, 24.75" scale length. Even a Gibson will be under $2k, but you can probably find a non-Gibson SG in the low/mid hundreds.

**e.h.stark** · 05-01-2023, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by jads57

Carvin or Kiesel Alan Holdsworth HH2

Kiesel Guitars: Allan Holdsworth Signature

those are always 24 fret aren't they? i dig headless guitars, but tuning with the same hand that i pluck the string with kind of annoys me.. i'm playing a harley Benton dullahan atm which i like but the sound of 24 frets and 25,5" is a bit too spanky for my taste

**docsteve** · 05-01-2023, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by e.h.stark

im an eastman fan for sure! the romeo is 16" tho isnt it?

No, the specs say 14.75". It's halfway between a Tele and a 335.

Edit: Since you seem to be in Europe, look here: Eastman Romeo LA Celestine Blue - The Fellowship of Acoustics

**st.bede** · 05-01-2023, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by docsteve

No, the specs say 14.75". It's halfway between a Tele and a 335.

Edit: Since you seem to be in Europe, look here: Eastman Romeo LA Celestine Blue - The Fellowship of Acoustics

That is a Romeo LA… I am pretty sure there is just a Romeo. To my limited knowledgeable, the Romeo is a typical jazz type guitar. (16, fullhollow, I think).

I have the LA. I do not think of it as a fusion thing, more like a Casino. It has a block of wood under the bridge (bigsby-ish). It is also has a smaller width.

The neck is pretty fat.

I really like the LA, it has a punchy sound, with some twang. I also feel like the guitar is targeted to the hipster and/or americana type crowd. (That is not me… I have had to play some songs from the Band. That counts as americana, right…. or maybe I just took too many loads for free to think of the Band like that).

The LA is great, but maybe not my first choice for a heavy saturated type sound. SGs are cool.

**339 in june** · 05-01-2023, 02:26 PM

Romeo LA, California or NYC : all 14.75" lower bout width
Electric Thinline - Eastman Guitars

**st.bede** · 05-01-2023, 04:20 PM

I must have played a different Eastman, and thought it was one of the Romeo series… thank you for letting me know. Are all the thineline simi-hollow (with the block under the bridge)? Also, does a Casino have the block under the bridge? 339?

**EastwoodMike** · 05-01-2023, 04:30 PM

Left field option: Fender Tele Jim Adkins?

cheap, light, 2xp90s, fixed neck, body contours, Gibson scale & stoptail bridge, contoured heel access… fusion entails distortion and volume???

cheer
Emike

**e.h.stark** · 05-01-2023, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by st.bede

I really like my Ibanez AM205-AV Prestige. I think it could do the whole fusion thing, but I have not really ran it like that. Maybe more like a Ford fusion, then say a Holdworth type thing.

those are cool, i really like the headstock!
most i've seen were quite heavy tho..

**jads57** · 05-01-2023, 05:37 PM

There is no perfect guitar, just a bunch of great choices depending on your preferences.
I do think that the Tele platform is maybe the most versatile to build upon though.

**e.h.stark** · 05-01-2023, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Christian Miller

I also always liked the look of the Fretking John Etheridge model but I don’t think those exist any more.

EDIT: they do. Can’t vouch for the quality.

otoh I’ve been quietly impressed by every modern D’Angelico I’ve played. I think if you shell out for one of their higher end models you’d be getting a lot of guitar for the money compared to some of the more established marques. Also I think the designs and colours are distinctive and lovely.

the fretking is something i have my eye on for some time.. dangelico had some kind of a neosoul-hipster appeal to me so i avoided the brand but looking into their specs i might have to reconsider

the atlantic could be a contender