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I encountered such a good deal on a used Strymon BlueSky reverb I had to buy it. I expected it to have excellent reverb's and it does. What I didn't expect was the way the pre-delay and high freq roll off (made for shimmer effect but can be used in 'normal') smoothed out my tone without dulling it the way the guitar and/or amp tone controls do.
So now I have to use it.
And using four pedals on a small board is as easy as using one pedal.
I have a bigger board with lots of cool stuff but looking to do a minimum setup for jamming and solo gigs. Was interested in what others were thinking.
For me.. probably.. Compressor => Amp Model/IR => Simple Looper => Reverb => DI (if needed)
Might try something other than a Strymon Iridium for the modeler since I've been using that one and would like to try something different. Have everything else to hand already. Also have a good EQ pedal but I'm concerned the extra pedal will call for a bigger board. Probably a PedalTrain Nano size board with a MXR Iso Brick power supply. Should fit in a small bag and weigh very little.
Thoughts?
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10-16-2023 11:06 PM
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Can't the amp model pedal include a DI?
I would always have an EQ for weird room situations etc.
Modulation? Delay? Otherwise all good.
What looper are you using?
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Looper on the TC Electronic Grand Canyon which includes Delay and a few other bits. The Strymon BlueSky has enough modulation for my needs. Kind of agree on the EQ. I have an Empress ParaEQ I'm not using. May go to a 6 place board vs a 4 or 5. Was thinking the DI would be separate from the board to be used as needed until I see how often that might be. It's a passive Behringer so only 1/2 space. Not sure I know of a small, inexpensive amp modeler that includes a DI. Suppose I could look into that.
Originally Posted by bluejaybill
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into tuner out of qsbus. Tube boost gives me any eq or compression I want. Tremolo pedal for movement and between the el-pescadoro, tube boost and the quilter I get several drive options. Only wish was that the quilter let me remotely switch the reverb. But otherwise I,m pretty happy with this 5 pedal and 1 amp setup. The quilter gives DI out as well. All on a pedal train metro 16.
emike
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m
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I would only add one of those small Zoom pedals (ms70cdr or ms50g) as a tuner and a graphic/paramwtric eq (if the model/ir, like the strymon iridium, does not provide this). And I would run the reverb/di in stereo.
The Line6 HX Stomp would actually do all those things in a very small package. Tuner, tons of eqs, amp, ir, an excelllente la2a compressor emulation, a decent looper, very good stereo reverbs and stereo balanced outs (you'd only need two trs to xlr cables).
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Here's mine: really minimal (and mainly for studying/practicing, really...)
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For me, a really simple pedal board consists of a Boss GT-1000 Core multi-effect and a Boss RC-500 looper. Both pedals are the same size and take up very little room, yet do a lot. All you need to do is make a couple of patch setups and then you never have to mess with programming the multi-effect again except maybe minor tweaks using the knobs on the existing setups as you would any pedal.
Tony
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I would certainly go for something like the HX Stomp if I didn't already have everything for a small board except the amp modeler / IR. For those that are setting up an initial rig I really think the Line 6 or something like the Boss GT 1000 is the way to go. Originally Posted by jorgemg1984
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Hard to beat the small, “all-in-one” modelers that have stompbox, modulation, delay, reverb, dynamics and EQ, filters and pitch shifters.
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Is this where I brag that I’m a cord to the amp guy? I’ve been thinking about buying a Jr Barnyard for 2 years now…
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Not that I don't get the Luddite thing.. but what do you do when you arrive at a jam and there are no guitar amps. Just a PA with mic and/or line in's? Originally Posted by AllanAllen
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My thinking goes like this for multi FX.
1. Does it have the ability to recall patches easily with my foot?
2. Does it have a usable volume pedal?
3. Is it easy enough to use that I won't get frustrated on a gig?
I've never looked into how to save patches with separate boxes. I guess you can switch them in and out, but can you save parameters?
Most multi FX units have volume pedals, but some are too small to use accurately.
For "easy enough", I want to be able to make adjustments on the fly. I don't want it to be prone to loading the wrong patch and howling. I don't want to be confused about what patch is currently loaded.
On the ME series there are no menus. Everything is controlled with a knob. You get four patches without thinking about banks. The GT-1 I think has a lot of the same basic sounds but has menus which allow adjustment of parameters which are fixed on the ME's. On the negative side, the volume pedal is too small and the learning curve (to get to the point where you get your sounds and nothing unexpected ever happens) was steep.
So, I use the Boss ME series. I used the 50, 70 and 80 (there was no 60) and I'm considering the 90 now. I sold the 50, but I still use both the 70 and 80. It came out recently. The sounds are good enough and the usability is great.
The ME 70 might be interesting to some. It sounds pretty good and it's physically smaller than the ME 80. Probably inexpensive used.
The ME 90 is supposed to sound better, but the ME 80 sounds fine (to me). The ME90 has better capability to go right into a PA. That may be a line level output with some cabinet simulation. You can program in third party IRs. For some, that may be a terrific selling point - for me it's not. I don't want to have to think about downloading and managing multiple IRs. Well, maybe it's easier than it sounds. It also has an FX loop, in case you want to add something.
In case a Boss engineer is reading this, here's a feature I'd like. Once I set the bank I want, I can lock out the ability to change banks. I use four sounds, there's a footswitch for each. The only time I ever change banks is by mistake, so I'd like to be able to turn off that capability.
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My acoustic pedalboard on pedaltrain metro 16
pre-amp (includes compressor, eq, tuner, boost)
looper
delay
multi-effects
reverb
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I always bring my guitar amp with me. Because of where I live, I'm driving if I go anywhere so it's not a problem to toss an amp in my car too. Originally Posted by Spook410
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The only pedals that I need are an OD/Boost/EQ (My MXR Il Torino is a current favourite.), Tremolo, and Reverb. For jams I just grab my Boss FDR1, which is all that in one pedal and, as an added bonus, sounds great plugged straight into a sound system.
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I bring an amp. Originally Posted by Spook410
I did tote a SansAmp Para Driver DI to one band's rehearsals, which had a Quilter powered speaker to plug into, rather than an amp.
But, hey, we're electric guitarists. We should bring an amp. Otherwise it'd be like a trumpeter turning up with a mouthpiece and no trumpet.
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And the pre-small pedal board experience. Another argument for a multiFX unit.
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Face it, we like to buy stuff. This seems to be true of most any hobby/avocation, though making a living at the thing seems to generate a bit more focus. This time next year, if this thread were revisited or a similar one started, it is likely that many (not all) of us would be sporting completely different setups.
Tony
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