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any tought about this pickup?
I’ve bought one mounth ago an es-335 satin equipped with it and while the guitar is great with a very nice acoustic tone, I’m still not able to dial a nice jazz tone…
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12-30-2023 08:10 PM
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I bought a 335 with the T-type pickups last winter. Same result as you. I kept the guitar for about a week before returning it. Had other issues as well. My previous 335 had ‘57 classics in it. Nice jazz tone.
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I owned a couple of newer Gibson Thinlines with these Calibrated pickups. I liked them a lot! I had no problem getting a good Jazz tone on the neck pickup.
Try adjusting the amp and add more low end as well as dialing in less mids.
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Or... turn down the volume knob on your guitar. This will attenuate some hi-end and get rid of the ice-pick tone.
It works, turn the amp up, to make up for some lost volume. I find very useable tones with the knob turned down from
3 to 8+
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My 1969 ES 175 has real T Tops and they sound great. Great "jazz tone" and great guitar. Wood bridge helps I suppose.
Originally Posted by Avery Roberts
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I had a early 70s ES175 (still without volute, i.e. really early 70s). I loved that Jazz tone from the T-Tops! Originally Posted by blkjazz
N.B. The guitar had a ABR Bridge. And I had the volume knob turned little bit down most of the time. Just for having some reserve for adapting my loudness, not due to the tone.
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the guitar has a great feeling, and I love this satin finish.
the tone is very good and this is what I get playing as solo guitar, when everything is under your control;
when I play with the band I’m still not satisfied: the first E sounds thin (but loud enough when unpluged) the G sounds too loud and the wound strings are not powerful enough.
I use some d’addarios pure nickel 011 and a fender twin reverb tone master…
https://youtube.com/shorts/9j-RsKuik...Qdzypeaqs8bujB
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In this case, it sounds like you could use some pole adjusting on those p/ups.
When people say the poles should match the radius of the neck
. Maybe to start out with!! But they are adjustable for a reason!
If you look at all of my guitars with adj. poles, you'll see they are all up and down according to the strings I use, their relative loudness etc.
And p/up height adjustment. Experiment. I like mine closer to the strings, but many people recommend lower p/up height. Experiment. You will find out what works for you and your rig. And maybe you have to raise just the bass side of the pickups. It's common for bass strings, especially round wound types, to be less pronounced with hum bucking pickups.Last edited by Jimmy Mack; 01-01-2024 at 04:11 PM. Reason: adding to it
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When reading this, I think more on adjustement of the pole screws. Especially the loud g string. It is unwound, hence it's the thickest core wire of the set and therefore too loud without correct adjustement of the pole screws. Originally Posted by gianluca
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Just in case, and I often get things backwards: PU height, closer to the strings is a little thiner sounding, and further is a little fatter. As mentioned above you have to balance the output. Another thing is that if the PU is too close it can pull the string a little out of tune, and creates a wobble type sound. (As always I do everything from memory, and as such, I am prone to make some mistakes).
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Let's help you out here. Closer is fatter (warmer). Far away is "distant" (thin)
Neither is bad until you get too close, and then you get slapped!!!!
Yes, too close will interfere with string vibrations.
Far away is great when you want clean tones and articulation.
I prefer warmer for my ears. As an example, to get me to sound more like Wes or Kenny, warm is where I have to go if I play with a pick.
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Apparently, I got it backwards again… I do that every time.
Once I have things dialed in, (the choice of what strings, PU choice, and PU adjustments), I live with it for a long time. Then I forget what I did. I would say, it is time to buy another guitar, but I have too many already.
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I Had a '69 L5CES and a '68 LP Custom, both had a really great jazz sound with T-tops.
In fact, I have one of them from the LP and was thinking about putting it in an archtop. In fact Kent Armstrong thought it would sound terrific when I was talking to him about pickups.
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Originally Posted by gianluca
I have same guitar, love it, bought this year, and play through same amp.
I'm using Ernie Ball Pure Nickel strings 10-46 with a Dunlop Ultex Jazz III pick.
I think I get a good jazz tone with this setup, but my strings did need to get played in. I dislike sound of new strings in general.
I had same issue at first, bass string less volume and G string too loud, also found treble strings plinky.
In time they dulled down and now sound even across all 6. I've had this issue before with other brand nickel strings. Bass strings less volume than treble, reason being I think, the plain treble strings aren't nickel on nickel string packs, and nickel sounds duller.
Usually use orange pack Pyramid, but been trying the EB's
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There seems to be a lot of internet mystery (aka 'missed history') when it comes to Gibson PAF's and TTops.
I have a great sounding pair of TTops that I bought in 1970 that I had installed in my first electric guitar...a Harmony Stratotone that came with a terrible sounding single DeArmond pickup. I've been thinking of removing the TTops from the Harmony and installing in another more worthy guitar, but that hasn't happened to date. Maybe some day...
Here's an interesting article about Gibson PAF's and TTops that some might find interesting.
All you ever wanted to know about Gibson T Tops - Made in the UK Discussions on theFretBoard
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