How do you understand the 5th and 6th bars of rhythm changes?

[charlieparker]

Rhythm Changes basically made me quit jazz guitar. It sounds amazing when the masters play it, but I could never pull it off with all those changes. I've tried other simpler approaches but I wasn't happy with them either.

If anyone starts a thread to work through rhythm changes where we post recordings, I might be interested.

[Bop Head]

But I would still solo on the #ivo7 there bwahahahaha. (The melody as written in the RB is agnostic.)


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I just had the idea that one could justify that by the saying both chords come from the double diminished scale ... just kidding.

[pamosmusic]

Rhythm Changes basically made me quit jazz guitar. It sounds amazing when the masters play it, but I could never pull it off with all those changes. I've tried other simpler approaches but I wasn't happy with them either.

If anyone starts a thread to work through rhythm changes where we post recordings, I might be interested.

Well howdy …

Summer of Rhythm … Changes?

[Christian Miller]

I just had the idea that one could justify that by the saying both chords come from the double diminished scale ... just kidding.

GET. OUT.


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[Christian Miller]

Something I just remembered

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[Bobby Timmons]

Rhythm Changes basically made me quit jazz guitar. It sounds amazing when the masters play it, but I could never pull it off with all those changes. I've tried other simpler approaches but I wasn't happy with them either.

If anyone starts a thread to work through rhythm changes where we post recordings, I might be interested.

Oh noes! I noticed I hadn't seen you around in a while. Don't quit. I think it's essential in all jazz to play with some harmonic grit. So you have to outline some of the changes and be able to play with some complexity and not only the major key center. But killing yourself with outlining all the changes is too difficult and disjunct. So ultimately it's a mix. Internalizing the tune and being able to throw in some complex stuff while also having the ease of the major key center. There was the thread of changes vs key center. I think rhythm changes is probably the most prime example of mixing both.

[Christian Miller]

Just play a Db in bar 6, bruv.

It'll be fine.

[AllanAllen]

Rhythm Changes basically made me quit jazz guitar. It sounds amazing when the masters play it, but I could never pull it off with all those changes. I've tried other simpler approaches but I wasn't happy with them either.

If anyone starts a thread to work through rhythm changes where we post recordings, I might be interested.

Summer of Rhythm … Changes?

There's this thread, but nobody is posting themselves playing... yet. I'll help you hijack it from the theory heads if you want.

[pamosmusic]

Summer of Rhythm … Changes?

There's this thread, but nobody is posting themselves playing... yet. I'll help you hijack it from the theory heads if you want.

Be patient, my man. I’m on Db in my first pass through. A few more days and I’ll throw something up there.

[AllanAllen]

Be patient, my man. I’m on Db in my first pass through. A few more days and I’ll throw something up there.

That wasn't a dig, it's a perfectly fine archeological thread on Gershwin's changes. CharlieParker wants to post clips and get feedback and I think that'll also work there. I like the master thread approach instead of a bunch of showcase posts that get a like or single comment of "sounds good."

Also what do you mean Db? Are you doing 12 choruses?

[pamosmusic]

That wasn't a dig, it's a perfectly fine archeological thread on Gershwin's changes. CharlieParker wants to post clips and get feedback and I think that'll also work there. I like the master thread approach instead of a bunch of showcase posts that get a like or single comment of "sounds good."

Also what do you mean Db? Are you doing 12 choruses?

Im going to play each one in twelve keys. So I’ll be back around to see shortly

and yes. Definitely anyone can post clips there. That would be excellent

[Peng1026]

Hi folks, thank you very much for all the answers and comments. I feel I really got something form them...
The new "SUMMER OF RHYTHM … CHANGES?" thread is also really a good thing!!

I decided to record me to play some RC and post it here, it was just one take and i made many mistakes there.... but I've tried my best and that's me....
Comments and advices would be very very predicated. : )

[AllanAllen]

I've been using my looper wrong. What a great way to practice bass on the guitar. Thanks for that idea!

For what it's worth, that sounds like a jazz solo to me. Great flow in your playing.

[ragman1]

Comments and advices would be very very predicated. : )

It's pretty good, you have the makings of a good player.

One thing. All your solos were in the same area of the guitar and it can start to sound all the same. Starting low and working up is a good idea.

[pamosmusic]

Hi folks, thank you very much for all the answers and comments. I feel I really got something form them...
The new "SUMMER OF RHYTHM … CHANGES?" thread is also really a good thing!!

I decided to record me to play some RC and post it here, it was just one take and i made many mistakes there.... but I've tried my best and that's me....
Comments and advices would be very very predicated. : )

Nice! Sounds good.

For the head, you might consider some slurs — hammers, pulls, one-fret slides.

It sounds like you’re picking every single note, which is impractical as the tempo increases on the tune (it’s one of the harder standard Bird heads, I think, or at least the one that gives me the most headaches), but more importantly isn’t the way a jazz player would articulate it for the most part.

Slurring into downbeats where possible (meaning you can’t slur when you cross strings, for example) is a good place to start. Alternatively a light accent on up beats, or some combination thereof. Not the end all be all, but it’s a good way to start it sounding a little more like you want it to.