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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    In the measure with the Bb-7 chord, 4th note, you're playing a D natural and it needs to be a Db. You got me thinking about playing it an octave higher than what I've been doing.
    Oh, right, there is a bar line at the enclosure. Thanks a lot!

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  3. #152

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    Behold, I gift you with my brain-facts


  4. #153

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Miller
    I mean a lot of guitar music doesn’t work in position either.
    The only rule I've found that works well for guitar fingerings is the "5 fret rule," i.e., cover a 5 fret span with your index finger and pinky, and you could slide up or down with your index finger (or with your pinky a la Allan Holdsworth). So this would mean you really only have about 3 positions on the fretboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    The only rule I've found that works well for guitar fingerings is the "5 fret rule," i.e., cover a 5 fret span with your index finger and pinky, and you could slide up or down with your index finger. So this would mean you really only have about 3 positions on the fretboard.
    These are positions.

    The UNT (and probably Berklee) definitions of “position” is the fret behind your middle finger. The pinkie can cheat forward one feet and the index finger can cheat backward.

    And you end up with twelve positions, I think. You could cover the neck with three or so, but you’d still get different fingerings every time you move up a fret.

    (yes, this is too many positions, and no I don’t use them this way.)

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    CAGED for life. Don't harden simple things.

  7. #156

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    There's other seven positions, or one position (the whole neck), or any number in between.

    Or maybe more positions if we do the one octave thing.

    The more ways you have of doing things, the better.

    I have a preference for bop though,

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanAllen
    CAGED for life. Don't harden simple things.
    Thats basically what I use too. Theres a sixth scale position I like too, but beyond that it’s a bit much

  9. #158

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    Quote Originally Posted by pamosmusic
    These are positions.

    The UNT (and probably Berklee) definitions of “position” is the fret behind your middle finger. The pinkie can cheat forward one feet and the index finger can cheat backward.

    And you end up with twelve positions, I think. You could cover the neck with three or so, but you’d still get different fingerings every time you move up a fret.

    (yes, this is too many positions, and no I don’t use them this way.)
    With the 5 fret grip, you can play a scale from the first to 12 frets with 4 positions.

    "you’d still get different fingerings every time you move up a fret"

    Not many, much fewer fingerings than say the CAGED positions. I could post some examples.

  10. #159

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    Quote Originally Posted by pamosmusic
    These are positions.

    The UNT (and probably Berklee) definitions of “position” is the fret behind your middle finger.
    I've learned that the position is named after where the index finger is placed. Looks like that there are also other definitions on the start.

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    Here’s a position for you.


  12. #161

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    Actually, the entire 4 bars could be played in the first position if you use open strings but it may sound country especially if you're playing a Tele.

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    I don’t do open strings. They confuse me.

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    All this talk about fingering and positions... sheesh... makes me feel a little squirrelly.
    BUT I have decided to change up ow I play measures 5-8 since it seems to be hanging me up and I see nobody else using the fingering I use, so why not?


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    Why not try it as a Bossa Nova? Coming soon to an elevator or dentist's office near you!

  16. #165

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanAllen
    Here’s a position for you.

    I think you’ve put in an extra note near the beginning


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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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    A sword day! A red day! Ere the sun rises!

  18. #167

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanAllen
    I don’t do open strings. They confuse me.
    But the thing is, I realized after playing it in the first position with open strings that Ab is the toughest key to play this tune in.

    I mean, duh!, I should have transposed it to a different key first and compared fingerings, because in every other key it can be played almost entirely in one position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    But the thing is, I realized after playing it in the first position with open strings that Ab is the toughest key to play this tune in.

    I mean, duh!, I should have transposed it to a different key first and compared fingerings, because in every other key it can be played almost entirely in one position.
    I’ve found with the 5 positions and not using open strings, the key doesn’t matter. Put up a clip of you doing it country style with open strings. I’d be interested to hear it. I always like when Chet Atkins took a standard to a country key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pamosmusic
    A sword day! A red day! Ere the sun rises!
    Which he says just after he rips a more epic chorus on Donna Lee than any mortal man had heard before. At least I think that’s what happens, it’s been twenty years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Miller
    Which he says just after he rips a more epic chorus on Donna Lee than any mortal man had heard before. At least I think that’s what happens, it’s been twenty years.


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    Thats after he rides down the line of screaming jazzers, clattering his broadsword off their spears.

  22. #171

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    Why not try it as a Bossa Nova? Coming soon to an elevator or dentist's office near you!
    Dindi Lee?

  23. #172

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Miller
    I think you’ve put in an extra note near the beginning


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    Thats quite likely. I’m learning this by reading and memorizing. phonetically.

  24. #173

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    Quote Originally Posted by pamosmusic
    Thats after he rides down the line of screaming jazzers, clattering his broadsword off their spears.
    jazz was so much more vibey in the old days… wouldn’t get Berklee grads doing that.


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    By the way Christian I am seeing Shirley Smart (cellist) next week at the Watermill, I believe she was on one of your albums?

    Sorry a bit OT but you never know, she might play Donna Lee - I have heard some clips and she sounds incredible and capable of playing anything!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahambop
    By the way Christian I am seeing Shirley Smart (cellist) next week at the Watermill, I believe she was on one of your albums?

    Sorry a bit OT but you never know, she might play Donna Lee - I have heard some clips and she sounds incredible and capable of playing anything!
    Yeah Shirley’s an old friend, hung out only this week as a matter of fact. We’ve played together countless times over the years. We’ve definitely DL’d together a few times lol. She’s a beast!

    She’s on Balagan Café Band.

    Is it the trio or sextet?

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