Bebop heads - Scrapple From the Apple

[pamosmusic]

The votes are in and our next tune will be Scrapple From the Apple.

We’ll take four bars each week. So this week we’ll be learning m1-4 … ending about halfway through bar four, the second half of which is a pickup to the next phrase.

From there, I think we can probably learn the second four bars, along with the three alternate endings, since there isn’t much difference in each A section. Then maybe we give the B section the ole college try, four bars at a time there. It’s a doozy.

Don’t think anyone needs any help finding Charlie Parker’s version, so here is my favorite non-Bird rendition (he is of course quoting Bird’s improvisation over the B section here, which is awesome for all those people who say Jim isn’t a chops player):

For those of you who didn’t participate in our tour of Donna Lee, that’s all right here:

Bebop heads: Donna Lee

The tempo is your own. Whatever you like to post — clips of you playing, fingering charts or questions, using it for vocabulary, etc. The only caveat is that we’re primarily talking about the melody here, it whatever direction that leads you.

[AllanAllen]

Think I got it. Working off the Oscar Peterson, Getz, Mulligan version.

Sucks how fast you forget. But things are easier to learn the 2nd or 3rd time.

Bars 1-4 Scrapple From The Apple

[Bobby Timmons]

^ Country boy Allan!

Uh I'm not sure the melody is accurate. :P

[AllanAllen]

^ Country boy Allan!

Uh I'm not sure the melody is accurate. :P

Probably, back to using my ear and making mistakes.

[CliffR]

Here's a version I recorded a couple of years ago. Some of the notes are incorrect. I'll try and get a new recording done once I've finished with Billie's Bounce.

[Mick-7]

The votes are in and our next tune will be Scrapple From the Apple.

Don’t think anyone needs any help finding Charlie Parker’s version, so here is my favorite non-Bird rendition (he is of course quoting Bird’s improvisation over the B section here, which is awesome for all those people who say Jim isn’t a chops player)

Even the great Jim Hall had trouble playing the head cleanly, which is encouraging.

I thought his intro was odd for a bop tune until I heard Dexter, from whom he borrowed it - I think I'll swipe Dexter's intro too.

[pamosmusic]

Even the great Jim Hall had trouble playing the head cleanly, which is encouraging.

*eyebrow raised*

Pretty clean to me

[Mick-7]

*eyebrow raised*

Pretty clean to me

At, say, 23-24 seconds into the YouTube clip?

But I haven't played this for a long time, I'll have to revisit it.

[supersoul]

[pamosmusic]

At, say, 23-24 seconds into the YouTube clip?

But I haven't played this for a long time, I'll have to revisit it.

Sounds clean enough to me. For whatever it’s worth, that’s immediately after he plays his cool countermelody line.

[AllanAllen]

Cool, I also struggled not to keep paying through the head. Unlike Donna Lee, I kind know this one so I wanted to keep going.

[Mick-7]

Sounds clean enough to me. For whatever it’s worth, that’s immediately after he plays his cool countermelody line.

I don't know, I used to have that LP, and transcribed some of it, don't recall his guitar tone being so dark, like he's using gain on his amp? - muddles the sound a bit.

[pamosmusic]

Scrapple — alternate fingerings and vocabulary

[GuyBoden]

For better or worse, I'm copying the head for Scrapple from this Tenor Sax version on youtube, I find it easier to hear, also I can read the notation of the parts I can't hear.

I've just started, I've memorised 8 bars in a few keys.

Thanks for starting the thread, Scrapple has some great usable licks.

[AllanAllen]

Scrapple — alternate fingerings and vocabulary

So why do you go to the 5th or b2 on the bridge? Are you treating the A7 as a V and the V of the V would be a ii? and the b2 would be a tritone?

I mean playing E- lick over the A7.

[pamosmusic]

So why do you go to the 5th or b2 on the bridge? Are you treating the A7 as a V and the V of the V would be a ii? and the b2 would be a tritone?

I mean playing E- lick over the A7.

Yeah so that’s just two common ways to apply minor sounds.

Simplest form, you get E G B which is 5 b7 9, and then Bb Db F which is b9 3 b6 over the dominant chord. So minor licks with those relationships to a dominant chord will give you those sounds.

Or like you were alluding to I think … easier way to think of it is the ii chord of the dominant, and then the ii chord of its tritone

[pamosmusic]

If you have a minor lick you like, you can get obviously use it over a minor chord, but you can also use it over dominant off the fifth of the chord, major off the sixth, or half diminished off the third.

There are other sounds (third or seventh of the major, etc etc etc) but those are the staples.

So that’s a minor lick:

Minor chord - play it off the root
Major chord - play it off the sixth
Dominant chord - play it off the fifth
Half diminished chord - play it off the third

[AllanAllen]

Fixed the melody, got a few fingerings.

[AllanAllen]

Yeah so that’s just two common ways to apply minor sounds.

Simplest form, you get E G B which is 5 b7 9, and then Bb Db F which is b9 3 b6 over the dominant chord. So minor licks with those relationships to a dominant chord will give you those sounds.

Or like you were alluding to I think … easier way to think of it is the ii chord of the dominant, and then the ii chord of its tritone

I’m glad my question made sense. Thanks.

[Bobby Timmons]

Run through I did like 2 months ago. I tried to play it 'pianistic'. I might work it up again and try to do the Bird bridge. There are too many threads to participate in! Standards, bluez, ballads, bebop, and rhythm changes. Sheesh.

[AllanAllen]

There are too many threads to participate in! Standards, bluez, ballads, bebop, and rhythm changes. Sheesh.

Don’t forget rhythm guitar.

I really like it. The forum feels revitalized to me.

[Bobby Timmons]

Don’t forget rhythm guitar.

Oh no. Yeah, I have to work on that too.

I really like it. The forum feels revitalized to me.

I agree.