Bebop heads - Scrapple From the Apple

[Bobby Timmons]

On piano? How does that work, do you strum the strings inside the piano?

[ragman1]

If panasonic doesn't mind, here's something to help get the melody together. It can be downloaded and sped up or down as you wish. Do it for a couple of days slowly till it's firmly in your brain and you'll definitely be much more likely to get it right when up to speed.

(IMPORTANT EDIT: the second B of the triplet in bar 6 is natural so the notes are A Bb B. The program didn't notate it for some reason but the midi plays it okay. I just noticed it).

[pamosmusic]

Do it for a couple of days slowly till it's firmly in your brain and you'll definitely be much more likely to get it right when up to speed.

That triplet feel on the eighth notes won’t speed up well. Better to play them straighter at the slow tempo since they’ll straighten out as they speed up. Playing the triplet swing eighth at the slow tempo will make the faster tempos feel awkward and the ceiling a lot lower.

(Don't ask me to do it, I think it's masochistic )

Wouldn’t dream of it.

[Old Nick]

Here's my first go, messed up the triplet in bar 6 a bit..I'll work on that..

First video post..hope it works

[pamosmusic]

Here’s the first A of Scrapple, and another pass through the changes with part of that second four. Playing Bb and E major over the Gm C7, then F and Bb for the F and Bb. Gb for the D7. Over the bridge it’s G Db, C Gb, F B, Bb E

Im at the beach so … weird light, no metronome, acoustic guitar, out of practice, etc

[ragman1]

That triplet feel on the eighth notes won’t speed up well. Better to play them straighter at the slow tempo since they’ll straighten out as they speed up. Playing the triplet swing eighth at the slow tempo will make the faster tempos feel awkward and the ceiling a lot lower.

I copied the head from this. I haven't tried it myself, just recorded the midi. The midi doesn't slur anything and plays triplets note for note. I'm sure that makes a difference. Incidentally, the RB version (same notes) leaves the bridge blank.

[AllanAllen]

Yeah, I wanted to do the bridge. Frankie Lanaro, forum member, did it here and I got inspired.

edit: upon relistening it’s not the Parker bridge. lol

[ragman1]

edit: upon relistening it’s not the Parker bridge. lol

Whoopee, you can do your own. Much more fun :-)

[AllanAllen]

Whoopee, you can do your own. Much more fun :-)

Well, the point is to learn Parker’s so my own will sound better.

[Old Nick]

I copied the head from this. I haven't tried it myself, just recorded the midi. The midi doesn't slur anything and plays triplets note for note. I'm sure that makes a difference. Incidentally, the RB version (same notes) leaves the bridge blank.

The other thing about this version is that the note sequence in measures 2 and 3 is different from the RB ed.5 sheet. Which is correct?

[AllanAllen]

The other thing about this version is that the note sequence in measures 2 and 3 is different from the RB ed.5 sheet. Which is correct?

Peter said this one was wrong. I did not check his claim, and he also didn’t say if the RB was correct.

[pamosmusic]

The other thing about this version is that the note sequence in measures 2 and 3 is different from the RB ed.5 sheet. Which is correct?

Dont know off the top of my head. What’s the difference?

The one posted here looks pretty much right.

[pamosmusic]

Peter said this one was wrong. I did not check his claim, and he also didn’t say if the RB was correct.

Ooooh right. A couple notes in the bridge are off. A section looks okay though?

[Old Nick]

Dont know off the top of my head. What’s the difference?

The one posted here looks pretty much right.

Note sequence measure 2:
RB: E-C-Bb-A
This one: G-C-Bb-A

Measure 3:
RB: Bb-F-D-C-Bb-A-F-G-Db
This one: Bb-F-D-Bb-G-A-F#-G-Db

There may be other discrepancies but haven't gone further to check

[pamosmusic]

Note sequence measure 2:
RB: E-C-Bb-A
This one: G-C-Bb-A

Measure 3:
RB: Bb-F-D-C-Bb-A-F-G-Db
This one: Bb-F-D-Bb-G-A-F#-G-Db

There may be other discrepancies but haven't gone further to check

I play the a section more or less like this one is written I think

[Old Nick]

As far as I can tell, all the other notes in A match up but the indicated phrasing is a bit different here and there, nothing huge.

[Bop Head]

The other thing about this version is that the note sequence in measures 2 and 3 is different from the RB ed.5 sheet. Which is correct?

The best source for Bird heads IMO is "Charlie Parker Tune Book : Transcriptions by Fred Parcells".

[Old Nick]

The best source for Bird heads IMO is "Charlie Parker Tune Book : Transcriptions by Fred Parcells".

Thanks, good to know. This version matches with the posted sheet above and disagrees with the RB version. Back to the beginning for me.

[supersoul]

Note sequence measure 2:
RB: E-C-Bb-A
This one: G-C-Bb-A

Measure 3:
RB: Bb-F-D-C-Bb-A-F-G-Db
This one: Bb-F-D-Bb-G-A-F#-G-Db

There may be other discrepancies but haven't gone further to check

It sounds to me like Dexter Gordon plays the first version (the Real Book one) on the album Our Man in Paris.
It also sounds like Charlie Parker plays the second version (the this one).

[Old Nick]

It sounds to me like Dexter Gordon plays the first version (the Real Book one) on the album Our Man in Paris.
It also sounds like Charlie Parker plays the second version (the this one).

Fantastic

Can I ask which one you play?

[supersoul]

Fantastic

Can I ask which one you play?

lol, I go back and forth. They're both cool.

On the little clip I posted (#9) I first played the Dexter version, then corrected myself and played the Charlie Parker version for the rest of the time. I say something like, "or like this" in between.

Although I always play the F# and not the F in the third measure. I'm pretty sure that's what Dexter's playing. It's harder to tell with Bird, because there's also a trumpet in unison and it's all slurred.

[Old Nick]

lol, I go back and forth. They're both cool.

On the little clip I posted (#9) I first played the Dexter version, then corrected myself and played the Charlie Parker version for the rest of the time. I say something like, "or like this" in between.

Although I always play the F# and not the F in the third measure. I'm pretty sure that's what Dexter's playing. It's harder to tell with Bird, because there's also a trumpet in unison and it's all slurred.

Sounds like there isn't a 'wrong' version. I'll stick with the 'Dexter' since that's my parrot's name . Thanks much for your insight.

[Mick-7]

The Charlie Parker Omnibook has the same notes as the Real Book (I)

"I'll stick with the 'Dexter' since that's my parrot's name."

Maybe he could scat sing it for us?


P.S. - Note: the chart you posted must be from an older edition of Real Book I, because it has different notes than the Charlie Parker Omnibook. The 6th edition of Real Book I has, as I said, the same notes as the CP Omnibook - and same as the Colorado Cookbook lead sheet.

From RB 1, 6th edition:

[Old Nick]

Cool. So 3 varieties in print..so far.

[pamosmusic]

The Charlie Parker Omnibook has the same notes as the Real Book (I)

"I'll stick with the 'Dexter' since that's my parrot's name."

Maybe he could scat sing it for us?


P.S. - Note: the chart you posted must be from an older edition of Real Book I, because it has different notes than the Charlie Parker Omnibook. The 6th edition of Real Book I has, as I said, the same notes as the CP Omnibook - and same as the Colorado Cookbook lead sheet.

From RB 1, 6th edition:

Hmm … I transcribed it many moons ago and play it like this one I think, except the D natural in m3 I play as an F natural. And the D on the and of 4 in m1 is maybe not even audible in the recording? It sounds right but definitely a ghost note. I usually play it.